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From Tony Kurc <trk...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Website Theme
Date Sun, 08 Feb 2015 22:38:51 GMT
should I make a ticket for documenting maintaining the website? I couldn't
find one.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Joe Witt <joe.witt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Matt
>
> What can I do now to help with maintaining v2 stuff?  Do I edit the
> files in Git or the files in SVN?  Don't want to mess with it yet
> because I don't understand it.  But if you can give me a few pointers
> I can help.
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Matt Gilman <matt.c.gilman@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I have an idea of how its going to work. However, once we reach out to
> > infrastructure regarding the external build (if necessary) we'll know for
> > sure [1]. After that discussion I will update nifi-site in our Git repo
> > accordingly. It says that the mailing list is infrastructure@, does that
> > mean infrastructure@apache.org?
> >
> > Mark had an idea about an updated screenshot but higher priority things
> > have popped up. The image can be updated whenever its ready [2].
> >
> > If you have any other ideas for media we should incorporate (other
> > screenshots, FAQs, videos, etc) let me know.
> >
> > [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> > [2]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/blob/develop/nifi-site/src/images/flow.png
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joe Witt <joe.witt@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Matt
> >>
> >> It looks good.  Before we switch we should get the mechanics of update
> >> documented.   Do you know that or is it TBD?
> >>
> >> Also do you need assistance with updating the screenshot?
> >>
> >> Joe
> >> On Feb 8, 2015 4:45 AM, "Matt Gilman" <matt.c.gilman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Barring any objections, I'd like to more forward with the updated
> website
> >> > [1]. I've kept up with the changes with the exception of those from
> the
> >> > last few days. Assuming everyone is on board I will reach out to INFRA
> >> > about the possibilities for the website build. Based on that
> >> conservation I
> >> > will update the nifi-site in our Git repo [2] accordingly. I am
> assuming
> >> > that we'll be doing an external build and part of that build will be
> >> > deploying the site using SVN.
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> >> > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-nifi/tree/develop/nifi-site
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> >> > jennifer.barnabee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I think that's perfect!
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Joe Witt <joe.witt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hello
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Made some of these suggested edits/simplifications to the current
> >> site.
> >> > > > New tagline
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Apache NiFi is an easy to use, powerful, and reliable system to
> >> > process
> >> > > > and distribute data."
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also removed the jumbotron block as it was causing some really
> >> strange
> >> > > text
> >> > > > sizing issues.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Jenn - does this seem more like what you were thinking?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks
> >> > > > Joe
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Gilman <
> >> matt.c.gilman@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Aldrin,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > What you've outline is exactly what I am looking to accomplish,
> I'm
> >> > > just
> >> > > > > trying to figure out all the pieces. I think I have a handle on
> >> > > > everything
> >> > > > > except actual publishing of the site. Though I believe the email
> >> you
> >> > > sent
> >> > > > > out earlier indicates that we just need to discuss the matter
> >> further
> >> > > > with
> >> > > > > infrastructure@ mailing list. I tried committing a change
> (outside
> >> > of
> >> > > > CMS)
> >> > > > > to the staging repository hoping it would kick off the
> publishing.
> >> It
> >> > > did
> >> > > > > not.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I have prototyped the site artifacts which can be built into the
> >> > static
> >> > > > > site. I still need to copy over the existing content but I'm
> trying
> >> > to
> >> > > > > figure out where this is going to live first. Barring any
> >> objections
> >> > I
> >> > > am
> >> > > > > going to create (likely tomorrow) a nifi-site directory at the
> root
> >> > of
> >> > > > our
> >> > > > > Git repository and go from there. Currently everything is living
> >> in a
> >> > > > > repository that I forked from the work that Aldrin had started.
> >> > > Anyways,
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > believe moving it to the project Git repository puts the site
> in a
> >> > more
> >> > > > > accessible place where others can contribute as necessary.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > As I mentioned to Dan earlier, I am hoping that we can utilize a
> >> > maven
> >> > > > > plugin [1] to deploy the relevant documentation (processor,
> guides,
> >> > > > > javadocs) from the application build to a predefined location.
> The
> >> > site
> >> > > > > would just reference it from there. This would keep the site and
> >> > > > > application builds independent which I think is desirable.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> >> aldrinpiri@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > All the comments have been good but are a bit beyond where the
> >> > > current
> >> > > > > > platform for them needs to be.  Additionally, with a site more
> >> > > > accessible
> >> > > > > > and live, changes can be made via contributions. Trying to
> route
> >> > > things
> >> > > > > > back on topic a bit as there are external dependencies on some
> >> > > > > "finalized"
> >> > > > > > state of the site, I did some research into how other projects
> >> are
> >> > > > > > accomplishing this based off of Matt's notes.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Matt, looking at jclouds, it appears as though they also use
> the
> >> > ASF
> >> > > > > > infrastructure to manage their site, but perform a build
> through
> >> a
> >> > > > script
> >> > > > > > [1], invoking Jekyll to generate the static pages pushed to
> the
> >> > infra
> >> > > > > SVN;
> >> > > > > > it is a home-brewed git+svn of sorts, but the overall concept
> >> makes
> >> > > > > sense.
> >> > > > > > Given the technologies you listed, this seems like a fair
> >> approach
> >> > to
> >> > > > > > utilize the build tools right for the job while simultaneously
> >> not
> >> > > > > > requiring a special setup as outlined in the Apache CMS
> >> information
> >> > > > [2],
> >> > > > > > the community can freely pick the technologies they wish with
> the
> >> > > > notion
> >> > > > > > that the interface between site code and the actual view is
> >> static
> >> > > html
> >> > > > > > committed to the Infra SVN repo.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The one area that I think is important to address though is
> the
> >> > > > > > incorporation of the material being generated in the git
> >> repository
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > as
> >> > > > > > a product of the build process.  Quickly brainstorming a way
> to
> >> > > attack
> >> > > > > this
> >> > > > > > would be:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > 1.  provide a top level folder in the NiFi git repository,
> 'site'
> >> > > > (Matt
> >> > > > > > posed this as a possibility to which no one had any
> objections,
> >> so
> >> > it
> >> > > > > seems
> >> > > > > > like a reasonable path forward)
> >> > > > > > 2.  provide a script that compiles the site, making use of the
> >> > > desired
> >> > > > > > tools assuming the structure of the site
> >> > > > > > 3.  provide orchestration of the core codebase and the site
> >> > > > > >   a.  through Maven and possibly the exec or similar plugin,
> >> > profile,
> >> > > > or
> >> > > > > > other avenue, build the codebase needed (mvn -pl -am may do
> the
> >> > job)
> >> > > > > >   b.  call the script to generate the static structure of the
> >> site
> >> > > > which
> >> > > > > > has a build target that is a copy of the svn checkout to make
> use
> >> > of
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > diff (maybe there is a way to use git+svn to make this work
> in a
> >> > less
> >> > > > > > cumbersome manner)
> >> > > > > > 4.  commit to infra subversion
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The code for the site is easily accessible and allows
> submission
> >> of
> >> > > > > patches
> >> > > > > > via git while using the tools that make sense for
> accomplishing
> >> > what
> >> > > is
> >> > > > > > needed; Subversion just becomes the means for content
> delivery.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > There are certainly a number of details to iron out with the
> >> above
> >> > > > plan.
> >> > > > > > The biggest item is taking the disparate formats (asciidoc,
> >> > processor
> >> > > > > > documentation) and condensing them into the HTML/CSS template
> set
> >> > > > forth,
> >> > > > > > but both have provisions for specifying CSS, so it is
> certainly
> >> > > doable.
> >> > > > > > The above method allows for the avoidance of committing
> generated
> >> > > files
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > the core codebase (obviously, all generated files compose the
> SVN
> >> > > > site),
> >> > > > > > and allows for a direct correlation between documentation and
> a
> >> > given
> >> > > > > > commit while simultaneously not binding the site explicitly to
> >> SVN
> >> > or
> >> > > > ASF
> >> > > > > > CMS.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > One item that seems problematic with the above plan is that it
> >> > would
> >> > > > > remove
> >> > > > > > the ease of submitting a patch via the provided bookmarklet
> that
> >> > > works
> >> > > > > with
> >> > > > > > the CMS.  This becomes a manual process to find the source
> >> content
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > apply the patch to it in Git.  Although to some extent, this
> is
> >> > > already
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > case given the use of Asciidoc and the Processor
> documentation.
> >> > Not
> >> > > > sure
> >> > > > > > if it is a deal breaker or not, but it is a point of
> >> consideration.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > [1]
> >> > > https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site/blob/master/deploy-site.sh
> >> > > > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html#external
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jennifer Barnabee <
> >> > > > > > jennifer.barnabee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > You guys are totally right.  Ok, as a starting point, what
> >> about
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > or
> >> > > > > > > something like this?
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Apache NiFi is a highly configurable and intuitive dataflow
> >> > > > management
> >> > > > > > > system.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > -Jenn
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Donald Miner <
> >> > > > dminer@clearedgeit.com>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Same here, never heard of fbp.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > I like the Accumulo blurb on the front page a lot:
> >> > > > > > > > The Apache Accumuloâ„¢ sorted, distributed key/value store
> is a
> >> > > > robust,
> >> > > > > > > > scalable, high performance data storage and retrieval
> system.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > (I think i based my suggestion on this). It just gets to
> the
> >> > > point
> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > > as
> >> > > > > > > > a technologist that has a clue or two I know what it is
> >> trying
> >> > to
> >> > > > do.
> >> > > > > > > > Another example Kafka: "A high-throughput distributed
> >> messaging
> >> > > > > > system. "
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Joey Echeverria <
> >> > joey42@gmail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Just to clarify, I wasn't advocating that it should be
> >> > removed
> >> > > > (I'm
> >> > > > > > not
> >> > > > > > > > > really advocating for anything). My point was meant to
> >> > > illustrate
> >> > > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > it's
> >> > > > > > > > > not a draw, but it is potentially an educational
> reference.
> >> > So,
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > depends
> >> > > > > > > > > on how you want to use the real-estate in the tag line.
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 11:19:38 AM Joe Witt <
> >> > joe.witt@gmail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >> We can get rid of the FBP reference.  I'll just be the
> >> > excited
> >> > > > > tech
> >> > > > > > > guy
> >> > > > > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > > >> the corner of the conference that keeps talking about
> it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> On Jan 29, 2015 1:00 PM, "Joey Echeverria" <
> >> > > joey42@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>> I understand that flow-based programming is very
> >> important
> >> > as
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > model
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>> NiFi, but I don't think it's a widely understood term.
> >> > FWIW,
> >> > > I
> >> > > > > > hadn't
> >> > > > > > > > >> heard
> >> > > > > > > > >>> of it until I started working with NiFi.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>> On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 9:56:10 AM Jennifer Barnabee <
> >> > > > > > > > >>> jennifer.barnabee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Hi Donald,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> I like your tagline sentence for the most part.
> Thanks
> >> so
> >> > > much
> >> > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > > >>> sending
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> it. Maybe it can get us to where we want to be...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> I have these thoughts to add...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> a) I think we want to honor that flow-based
> programming
> >> is
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > basis
> >> > > > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> software. So, that's important, and I think that's
> why
> >> it
> >> > > went
> >> > > > > > into
> >> > > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> tagline. But I'm not sure whether it has to be
> >> > specifically
> >> > > > > there.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> Someone
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> else can weigh in on that.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> b) My only problem with your tagline is the last
> part:
> >> > > > > "transform
> >> > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >>> move
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> files". One thing is - we don't want to limit NiFi to
> >> > being
> >> > > > only
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> file-based. Secondly, moving and transforming data is
> >> not
> >> > > all
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > NiFi
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> does. In truth, NiFi is not just a dataflow system.
> >> It's a
> >> > > > > > dataflow
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> management system. And that encompasses everything
> about
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > > dataflow,
> >> > > > > > > > >>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> how the data moves and/or gets transformed and
> routed,
> >> to
> >> > > how
> >> > > > > you
> >> > > > > > > > >> monitor
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> that, how you track down the data, how you configure
> and
> >> > > > design
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> dataflow to be better, etc.  The moving and
> transforming
> >> > > parts
> >> > > > > are
> >> > > > > > > > just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> some of the extension points. It's the framework that
> >> > allows
> >> > > > you
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > > >>> manage
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> *whatever* you do with the data.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> So, now that I've rambled on, it's clear that I can't
> >> come
> >> > > up
> >> > > > > with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> something concise. I think I may be too close to
> >> > everything
> >> > > > :-)
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> But I think you are on the right track! I would be
> happy
> >> > to
> >> > > > know
> >> > > > > > > what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> others think. It would be great if people could land
> on
> >> > the
> >> > > > page
> >> > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> quickly understand what NiFi is. So far, your
> sentence
> >> > would
> >> > > > get
> >> > > > > > > > people
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> closer to that than anything I have proposed.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Cheers,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Jenn
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Donald Miner <
> >> > > > > > > dminer@clearedgeit.com
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On the subject of taglines, a minor nitpick (sorry).
> >> I'm
> >> > > > just a
> >> > > > > > fan
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise and meaningful taglines.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "is a dataflow system based on the concepts of
> >> flow-based
> >> > > > > > > > >> programming.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> It
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> is currently a part of the Apache Incubator." is
> rather
> >> > > > wordy.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "flow" and "based" are in this sentence twice, which
> >> > makes
> >> > > it
> >> > > > > > kind
> >> > > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> awkward. Does flow-based programming really matter
> >> enough
> >> > > to
> >> > > > be
> >> > > > > > > part
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> tagline? Maybe it should just be a bullet point
> below.
> >> > Same
> >> > > > > with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> incubator
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> status... I think that's readily available
> information
> >> > that
> >> > > > > > doesn't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> necessarily need to be in the tagline (and would
> >> > eventually
> >> > > > > > > change).
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Here's my stab:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> "The Apache NiFi dataflow system is an easy to use,
> >> > highly
> >> > > > > > > > >>> configurable,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> extendable, and reliable way to transform and move
> >> > files."
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I think the list of properties in the middle of my
> >> > sentence
> >> > > > > could
> >> > > > > > > be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> replaced by someone who has a better idea of what
> the
> >> > true
> >> > > > > > sticking
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> points
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> for NiFi will be.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> -d
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Joe Witt <
> >> > > > joe.witt@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jenn
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Apologies for the delayed feedback.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I agree it could be more concise but feel like the
> >> > > proposed
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > > > too
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> concise
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to as have lost some important meaning.  Many
> projects
> >> > > claim
> >> > > > > > > > >> they're
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> lightweight, scalable, and easy to use and almost
> >> always
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > > > just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> isn't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> true.  We're arguably not 'lightweight' anymore.
> We
> >> > could
> >> > > > > have
> >> > > > > > > > >> said
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when it was a 6 MB download perhaps but now that
> we're
> >> > > > > weighing
> >> > > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > > >> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 100MB's we probably shouldn't claim that on its
> own.
> >> > > We're
> >> > > > > > > > >> certainly
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> 'lightweight' in many important aspects and
> arguably
> >> in
> >> > > all
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >> ways
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> truly matter but we should be at least somewhat
> >> > > specific.  I
> >> > > > > > agree
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> we're
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> scalable but again without context that feels
> >> > > misleading.  I
> >> > > > > > agree
> >> > > > > > > > >> we
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> have
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> an extremely nice UI that is indeed highly
> >> configurable
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >> intuitive
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the same thoughts apply which is we should provide
> >> some
> >> > > > > context
> >> > > > > > as
> >> > > > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> we mean.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is the nice part of this as an open source
> thing.
> >> > We
> >> > > > can
> >> > > > > > > just
> >> > > > > > > > >>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> straight up and precise about the features and what
> >> > > they're
> >> > > > > good
> >> > > > > > > > >> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> what they do.  We can even be self deprecating and
> >> point
> >> > > out
> >> > > > > > what
> >> > > > > > > > >>> we're
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> good at.  If it were a commercial construct or we
> were
> >> > > > > marketing
> >> > > > > > > > >> then
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> we
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> might need to be less specific so as not to exclude
> >> some
> >> > > > > > potential
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> business
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> area.  But in this case, we're a tiny little open
> >> source
> >> > > > > project
> >> > > > > > > > >> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> very
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> few people know about.  We're only going to grow by
> >> > being
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> straightforward
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about what it is and attracting those who buy in to
> >> that
> >> > > > > vision
> >> > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> direction.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Just thoughts here - i am not asking you to avoid
> >> > changing
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > >> should
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> you
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> feel really strongly that you want to change it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jennifer Barnabee
> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> jennifer.barnabee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Hi Matt et al -
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> The new website design is looking great...  I feel
> >> like
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > text
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> needs
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be simpler and more to the point.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> For the tagline under the first Apache nifi
> heading,
> >> I
> >> > > > > suggest
> >> > > > > > > > >>> making
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> bullet rather than including the verb "is". I'd
> also
> >> > like
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > make
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> features into simpler bullets. See my suggested
> text
> >> > > > below. I
> >> > > > > > > > >> hope
> >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> still
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> captures the essence of what we want to convey,
> but
> >> > > others
> >> > > > > may
> >> > > > > > > > >> have
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> good
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> suggestions as well...  For example, in the last
> >> > bullet,
> >> > > I
> >> > > > > > don't
> >> > > > > > > > >>> know
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> if
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> "client" would be better than "user" or if
> >> > > "authentication"
> >> > > > > > would
> >> > > > > > > > >>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> better
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> than "authorization". You guys probably have a
> better
> >> > > > handle
> >> > > > > on
> >> > > > > > > > >>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> type
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> of stuff.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *Apache nifi *
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> - A dataflow system based on the concepts of
> >> flow-based
> >> > > > > > > > >>> programming.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> It
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently a part of the Apache Incubator.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Apache NiFi supports powerful and scalable
> directed
> >> > > graphs
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > >> data
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> routing,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> transformation, and system mediation logic.
> >> High-level
> >> > > > > features
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> include:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Lightweight
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Scalable
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Highly Configurable
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Intuitive User Interface
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Component-based Extension Model
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Fine Grained Data Provenance
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Enterprise & Inter-system Security
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Content Encryption/Decryption
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>   - Pluggable SSL & PKI User Authorization
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> *I kinda don't like that you have to scroll down
> to
> >> see
> >> > > all
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> features.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> But I realize it wouldn't bother me if I was
> looking
> >> at
> >> > > it
> >> > > > on
> >> > > > > > my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> phone,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> so
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't know why I'm complaining about that... *
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jenn
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Matt Gilman <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> matt.c.gilman@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I went ahead and started implementing the website
> >> > based
> >> > > on
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> most
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> recent
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> feedback and mock ups. I've done just the main
> page
> >> > and
> >> > > > put
> >> > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> here:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> http://nifi.incubator.apache.org/v2/
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's a more appropriate
> >> place
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > host
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> that.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Anyways, I am going to continue working to port
> over
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> remaining
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pages
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and figure out a good way to integrate the
> >> > documentation
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > >> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> generated
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> from building NiFi. Part of that is likely going
> to
> >> > > depend
> >> > > > > on
> >> > > > > > > > >>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> repository the site is kept in. What I've done
> uses
> >> a
> >> > > > number
> >> > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> tools
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (grunt, assemble, bower, etc) to actually build
> the
> >> > > site.
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> believe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Apache CMS tool will be CMing the resulting site.
> >> > Where
> >> > > do
> >> > > > > > > > >> others
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> CM
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> actual development artifacts of their sites? I
> did
> >> > find
> >> > > > > > another
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Apache
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> project with a similar set up:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jclouds/jclouds-site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and they appear to have a separate repository for
> >> > there
> >> > > > > site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Should
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> requesting another repository for this? Or
> should I
> >> > just
> >> > > > add
> >> > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > >>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> existing incubator-nifi and have a top level
> folder
> >> > for
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >> site?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Also, I also noticed that jclouds has a
> deployment
> >> > > script
> >> > > > > > which
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> appears
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> automate that process as well. Is this how most
> >> > projects
> >> > > > > > handle
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> updates?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Matt
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Aldrin Piri <
> >> > > > > > > > >>> aldrinpiri@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Seems like a fair list of points to resolve.
> Let
> >> me
> >> > > know
> >> > > > > how
> >> > > > > > > > >>> you
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> want
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to tackle it and if you'd like me to investigate
> >> any
> >> > of
> >> > > > > them.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> AsciiDoc provides an HTML5 backend [1] that
> should
> >> > > > provide
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > > >>> hook
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> help it be consistent in some form with the
> rest of
> >> > the
> >> > > > > site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > >
> http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/asciidoc.css-embedded.html#X35
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Matt Gilman <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> matt.c.gilman@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Agreed. Lets see give it a try and see how it
> >> > looks. I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> thought
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> possibly just putting the drop in the toolbar
> but
> >> > held
> >> > > > off
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> initially
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> your comment about being consistently visible
> >> across
> >> > > all
> >> > > > > > > > >>> pages
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> point.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> This brings up another issue that the current
> >> > > > > documentation
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> loads
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> page
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> without the toolbar so that'll have to be
> >> addressed.
> >> > > > > > > > >> Haven't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> messed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> bootstrap so I'll have to see what's possible.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Outstanding issues...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Better integrate documentation pages into
> >> website
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Get updated images (and properly scale them)
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> - Update website markup for production use
> (what I
> >> > did
> >> > > > was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> quick
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for the mockup so we continue this discussion)
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anything else I'm forgetting?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Aldrin Piri <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> aldrinpiri@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Looks good here.  I think clean and simple is
> the
> >> > > right
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> direction
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is just another step in that evolution. I
> think
> >> it
> >> > > is a
> >> > > > > > > > >>> matter
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> nit-picking at this point so the following
> >> comments
> >> > > > come
> >> > > > > > > > >>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scope of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> importance.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the logo make it
> somewhere on
> >> > the
> >> > > > > page
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> consistently
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the sake of keeping it across all pages in the
> >> > > site.  I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> realize
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> logo in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the navbar is rather redundant for the home
> page,
> >> > but
> >> > > > on
> >> > > > > > > > >> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> pages such as documentation and general
> project
> >> > > > > > > > >> information,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> will
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> no presence in the current state.  One way to
> >> > > > compromise
> >> > > > > > > > >>> might
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> use of the commonplace technique where the
> logo
> >> on
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > > > > >> main
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> content
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> area
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> gets placed into the navbar when scrolling
> would
> >> > > > obscure
> >> > > > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo;
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> other pages would then just have it in the
> >> header.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe a slightly heavier weight on the navbar
> for
> >> > the
> >> > > > > menu
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> items.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 22:51 Matt Gilman <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> matt.c.gilman@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I like what you did here and it sounds like
> most
> >> > > > people
> >> > > > > > > > >> do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> too.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wanted
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> provide some feedback and minor suggestions
> but
> >> > > > thought
> >> > > > > > > > >> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> easier to mock it up myself rather than
> trying
> >> to
> >> > > ask
> >> > > > > > > > >> you
> >> > > > > > > > >>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> move
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> here
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and that there. Anyways, take a peek and lets
> >> > > continue
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> iterating.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we're on the right track.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> com/mcgilman/apache-nifi-site/
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots/index.html.lite.v1.2.png
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Joe Witt <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> joe.witt@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No real thought behind it.  But I personally
> >> > agree
> >> > > > > > > > >> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> your
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> statement:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the logos look good as "nifi" and the text
> >> looks
> >> > > good
> >> > > > > > > > >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "NiFi"
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Daniel
> Bress
> >> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dbress@onyxconsults.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I think this looks good.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Maybe this is a little off topic, but I
> >> > noticed
> >> > > > > > > > >>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> logos
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistently use "nifi" whereas in text its
> >> > > > > > > > >>> consistently
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> written
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "NiFi".  Any reason for the difference?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   I kind of thing the logos look good as
> >> "nifi"
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> text
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> looks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "NiFi" so I might be questioning
> something
> >> > > that I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> am
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> OK
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> with.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> But I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed they are different and was
> wondering
> >> if
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> was a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> conscious
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision or not.  Thoughts?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Bress
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ONYX Consulting Services
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Witt <joe.witt@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:40 PM
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@nifi.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid design and agree with all your
> comments
> >> > > > > > > > >> aldrin.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> Very
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> nice
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2015 6:27 PM, "Aldrin Piri" <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> aldrinpiri@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the comments.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actuality tried it without the logo on
> the
> >> > main
> >> > > > > > > > >>> page
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> felt
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit empty.  I don't know that we
> necessarily
> >> > need
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> logo
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> there,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is needed.  Additionally, I
> viewed
> >> it
> >> > > as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> being
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "front
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page" inclusion, as other pages would just
> >> have
> >> > > > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> top
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> navbar.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You caught me.  I was lazy and I recycled
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> screenshot
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first iteration.  It would definitely need
> >> > > > > > > > >> updating,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> largely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a placeholder for the concept.  I
> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> definitely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> like
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more engaging.  (faux edit) I
> >> rearranged
> >> > > > > > > > >>> things
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> bit,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> removing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second instance of the logo and
> placing
> >> > more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> emphasis
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the corner of the application.  Not
> sure
> >> if
> >> > I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> like
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> better,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've provided the results [1] with all
> three
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> submissions
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> shown
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in chronological order [2].
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The news section is a toss-up for me at
> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>> juncture.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> could
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> see
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the need one for eventually, but I'm not
> sure
> >> > if
> >> > > > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> project
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there yet.  It seemed a common thread
> among
> >> > > > > > > > >>> incubating
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sites
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> such
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a section was omitted whereas those
> top-level
> >> > > > > > > > >>> projects
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> typically
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included one.  Given that the project is
> on
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> verge
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> first
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the regular releases, perhaps this is
> >> > > increasingly
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> pertinent
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near future.  At minimum, one of the
> screen
> >> > grabs
> >> > > > > > > > >>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> your
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blog
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> posts
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good candidate.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.v1.1.png
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > >
> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/blob/screenshots/README.md
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mark
> Payne
> >> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> markap14@hotmail.com
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aldrin,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm liking it! Definitely looks nice.
> >> Though I
> >> > > > > > > > >>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> provide a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bit
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I would include the
> NiFi
> >> > logo
> >> > > > > > > > >> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> right-hand
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> side,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it's already in the top-left.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From a NiFi 'brand' perspective, I would
> >> > update
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> screenshot a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> bit.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This screenshot is using the old logo in
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> top-left
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> corner,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graph
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows all of the data disappearing before
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> RouteOnAttribute
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Processor.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend we construct a dataflow
> that's
> >> > more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> appealing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> target
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience, perhaps integrating with other
> >> Apache
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> projects
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (HDFS,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Kafka
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible, for instance) or using (S)FTP
> >> > > processor.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it make sense to have maybe like a
> >> > 'Latest
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> News'
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> section
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something where we could post things like
> >> > > "Version
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> 0.0.1
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> released!"
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really liking the concept - nice job!
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks-Mark
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:00:52 -0800
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Website Theme
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: billie@apache.org
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@nifi.incubator.apache.org
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Aldrin
> >> Piri
> >> > <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> aldrinpiri@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found some time today to provide
> another
> >> > > > > > > > >> look
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were very minor changes to the core
> HTML
> >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> currently
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> served
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nidi homepage and it is largely just a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> stylesheet.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> This
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highly
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimal and clean, still driven by
> >> Bootstrap
> >> > > > > > > > >>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> directly
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> makes
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> use
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the colors from the UI itself.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A screenshot can be seen at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>
> >> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/scr
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> eenshots/index.html.lite.png
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the associated code under the
> "lite"
> >> > > > > > > > >>> branch
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site/tree/lite
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Aldrin
> >> Piri
> >> > <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> aldrinpiri@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry if this somehow gets sent twice.
> >>  My
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> first
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> submission
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce as it exceeded the spam
> threshold
> >> > > > > > > > >>> when I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> sent
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> couple
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours ago and it has yet to appear, so
> >> I'm
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> sending
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> again.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First and foremost, good feedback.  I
> >> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> UI/UX
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to find my livelihood in
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> plumbing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> behind
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenes
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my attempt to try and tackle
> all
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> comments
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> one
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> fell
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swoop:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that Bootstrap is everywhere,
> >> but I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> don't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is a bad thing.  One could argue
> >> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> interfaces
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> forms
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converging and users have the instant
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> familiarity
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> known
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that I am totally unaware of
> what
> >> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> takes
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> make a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional and maintain its feel
> across
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> devices.  I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part is important.  Personally, as a
> user
> >> > > > > > > > >> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> other
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> side
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen, I don't really understand why
> >> sites
> >> > > > > > > > >>> do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> work
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> jive
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mobile device du jour these days;
> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>> should
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> work.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> With
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little I've learned about UX and "Not
> >> > > > > > > > >> Making
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> [Anyone]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Think,"[1] I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want an effortless experience; no
> pinch
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> zooming,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> tap
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> panning,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a way to take bits and
> pieces of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> end
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support that aspect without the cookie
> >> > > > > > > > >> cutter
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> air,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful for some guidance on that
> front
> >> > > > > > > > >> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>> do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> provide
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of the box though, the sample
> looked
> >> > > > > > > > >>> pretty
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> decent
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> across
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices to which I had access, and
> used
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> constructs
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> everyone
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> who
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> views
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content through a tiny screen is
> >> > > > > > > > >> accustomed.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree on the front of the
> >> possibility
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> brand
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dilution,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is an excellent point for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> consideration.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> As
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original mailing, consideration was
> given
> >> > > > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> integrating
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application's aesthetics into the core
> >> > > > > > > > >> site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> sure
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> if
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pan out in an appreciable way as I can
> >> see
> >> > > > > > > > >> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> mind,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel it is an avenue worth
> exploring.  It
> >> > > > > > > > >> may
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> also
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> completely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mark, but with my new found web dev
> >> > > > > > > > >> prowess,
> >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> should
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> be a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> much
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quicker iteration than the first
> draft.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> You'll
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> see a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> slight
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> homage
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this via the graph wallpaper that is
> >> > > > > > > > >> featured
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> application
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.  This was muted a bit by a CSS
> >> > > > > > > > >>> overlay
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> to a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> level
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay, but I definitely hedged as to
> >> whether
> >> > > > > > > > >>> or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> include
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, I wanted to get something
> out
> >> > > > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> start
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ball
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolling,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> establishing a base for successive
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> iterations.  I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> know
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard work everyone is putting in,
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> project
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> closely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaching
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its first milestone for release, and
> >> > > > > > > > >> thought
> >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> important to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> chip
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where possible to give a face to the
> >> > > > > > > > >> project.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, I think this particular
> >> > > > > > > > >> project
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> needs
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> pictures
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate what it's capabilities.
> One
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> facets
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believer about NiFi as a whole is that
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>> end
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> user
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.  Citing the previous
> example
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> Accumulo,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> its
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> intended
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audience is very technical in nature
> and,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> accordingly,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> lot
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressed via the simple phrase of
> >> > > > > > > > >> "key-value
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> store."
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contend
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that NiFi's reach is far broader and
> >> can't
> >> > > > > > > > >> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> done
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> justice
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple phrase.  For the casual
> potential
> >> > > > > > > > >> user
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> who
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> has
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> strung
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n-many processes of taking a file,
> >> manually
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> transforming
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving it elsewhere, they need to see
> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>> quick
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> glance
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that can automate this
> tedium
> >> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> make
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> them
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Succinctly, the value proposition
> needs
> >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> only
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical folks who will use this as a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> framework,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> additionally
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end users.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The background for the header isn't
> >> > > > > > > > >> awesome,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> knew I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating any licenses if I generated
> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> myself.  I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> viewed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a placeholder than anything else.
> >> > > > > > > > >> Definitely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> not a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> web
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer, even more definitively not
> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>> graphic
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> artist.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> The
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from starting with the logo dark
> >> blue
> >> > > > > > > > >>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> running
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> whole
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of filters and plugins via GIMP to get
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> something.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a CSS gradient applied over top of
> it
> >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> well
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> when
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too loud.  It could definitely deal
> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>> being
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> muted
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bit
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> more.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Tony
> >> Kurc
> >> > > > > > > > >> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> trkurc@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey! It looks awesome! The existing
> site
> >> > > > > > > > >> was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> put
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> together a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholder
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we went with a very generic layout
> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>> worked
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> well
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contained all the information
> expected
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >> an
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> apache
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a big improvement! For people
> >> new
> >> > > > > > > > >> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> project,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upfront screenshot, with big fat
> links
> >> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> things
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> care
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing!
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some things I didn't like about the
> >> > > > > > > > >> existing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> are
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> glyphicon
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "external" sites on the menu. I
> used
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> "link",
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> think
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used for "permalink". Also, we
> kind
> >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> took a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> best
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> guess
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should go in each dropdown in the
> menu.
> >> > > > > > > > >> I'm
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> pretty
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> sure
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> could
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. I'd also like to see the
> >> > > > > > > > >> awesome
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> guides
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> people
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent theme with the website and
> >> > > > > > > > >> maybe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> have
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> pdfs
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> so
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-school
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can print them out (which may be a
> dumb
> >> > > > > > > > >> idea
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> ;)
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> )
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> A
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> pet
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> peeve
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects is having a hard time
> finding
> >> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> documentation I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> javadocs or specifications - and
> keeping
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> around
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> older
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation. I think we're still
> >> working
> >> > > > > > > > >>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> these
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> -
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> since
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retained
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the menu up top it should be
> >> > > > > > > > >> straightforward
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> have a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> robust
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdown.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The blue you used is more of a
> reddish
> >> or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> purplish
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> blue
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> -
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the app is more of a greenish blue.
> I'm
> >> > > > > > > > >> kind
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> curious
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greener
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blue
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would look like ... did you mock one
> up
> >> > > > > > > > >> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> looked
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bad?
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Or
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fundamental question, should the
> website
> >> > > > > > > > >>> evoke
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> theme of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app? I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't know how I feel.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe
> >> Witt
> >> > > > > > > > >> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> joe.witt@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the two sides of the
> spectrum
> >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> are:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kafka.apache.org/  [super
> >> > > > > > > > >>> minimalist]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aurora.incubator.apache.org/
> [
> >> > > > > > > > >>> quite
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> fancy
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> looking ]
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both in my opinion are beautifully
> done
> >> > > > > > > > >> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> make
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> easy
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> get
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these (and others) provide
> >> great
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> examples
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> both
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sides
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrum have merit.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is most important to me is
> that we
> >> > > > > > > > >> as
> >> > > > > > > > >>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> community
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rally
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the expertise and willingness
> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> contribute
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >> Witt <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> joe.witt@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both are bootstrap based.  Each is
> an
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> iterative
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep iterating as folks have time,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> willingness,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that this new look does not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> distinguish a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> brand.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mature enough to worry about that
> yet.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> We
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> just
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> need
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info laid out enough to help grow a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> community
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> get
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need.  We need it laid out in a way
> >> > > > > > > > >> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> multiple
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> folks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have a release, recruit
> some
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> committers,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrate
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Apache Way and grow then
> perhaps
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> branding
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> becomes a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..this motivates me to spawn
> another
> >> > > > > > > > >>> thread
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> about
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> type
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:13 AM,
> Adam
> >> > > > > > > > >>> Taft
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> adam@adamtaft.com
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This isn't a downvote -- I think
> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>> indeed
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> looks
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> good.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructive criticism...
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the mockup looks like a
> very
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> generic
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> "bootstrap"
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> million other bootstrap based
> sites.
> >> > > > > > > > >>> I'd
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> personally
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> almost
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing utilitarian website over
> a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> bootstrap
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> theme,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> simply
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't try to be anything more
> than
> >> > > > > > > > >>> what
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> it
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> is.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This approach might be an
> acceptable
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> tradeoff
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project;
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootstrap look & feel is
> obviously a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> resource
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> savings
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right price point.  But the site
> >> > > > > > > > >> mockup
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> definitely
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinguish
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache NiFi "brand" in anyway. In
> >> fact
> >> > > > > > > > >>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> opposite,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brand
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watered
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down with this look.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a funny side note, humorously
> for
> >> > > > > > > > >> me,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> was
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> first
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> head when I saw the site:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-04-01/
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:39 PM,
> >> Aldrin
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Piri
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> <
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aldrinpiri@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partial fulfillment of the
> goals
> >> > > > > > > > >> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> NIFI-162, I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> set
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> some
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put together something a bit more
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> visually
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> appealing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> face
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My work can be found at:
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://github.com/apiri/apache-nifi-site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, work focused around
> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> homepage,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> but
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> similar
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> styles
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to more content driven
> pages
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> minus
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> large
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headlining
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sections.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant technology colophon
> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> provided
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> in
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> README
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Github
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> primarily driven by Bootstrap,
> >> > > > > > > > >>> existing
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> image
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> resources
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project and current site, and
> other
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> "artwork"
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> which I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am neither a UX expert nor am
> I a
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> renowned
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> front
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> end
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> designer,
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input is welcome.  As a "version
> >> > > > > > > > >> 1.1"
> >> > > > > > > > >>> I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> would
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> like to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> converge more with the
> application.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> Ideas
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> for
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> are
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such as bringing the toolbar
> styling
> >> > > > > > > > >>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> color
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> scheme
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this seems like a reasonable
> path
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> forward
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> there
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support, I can look at the next
> >> > > > > > > > >> steps
> >> > > > > > > > >>> to
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> get
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> this
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, optimization, and
> >> > > > > > > > >> integration
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> with
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> application
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To aid in showing the intangibles
> >> > > > > > > > >> that
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>> can't
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>> be
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> seen
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image, I
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a copy of this design hosted at
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aldrinpiri.com/apache-nifi/.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links are currently
> nonfunctional as
> >> > > > > > > > >>>> they
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>> were
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> taken
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Aldrin
> >> > > > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>

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