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From Tony Kurc <trk...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: "External" extensions
Date Sun, 01 Nov 2015 22:53:51 GMT
Bryan, I just realized that there is a gap and was wanted to start a
discussion. Other than "let's make things better", I had no specific
expectations.
On Nov 1, 2015 5:27 PM, "Bryan Bende" <bbende@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tony,
>
> Was your original thought here related to the registry idea?
>
> I got the impression you were thinking more about documenting links to
> related projects on the Wiki or Website. We obviously want the registry
> eventually, but these two ideas would be significantly different in effort.
>
> We had started a design page for the registry idea here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NIFI/Extension+and+Template+Registry
>
> -Bryan
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Oleg Zhurakousky <
> ozhurakousky@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> > Well the question still remains unanswered, what relationship those
> > projects have to ASF distribution of NiFi? I seriously doubt that anyone
> on
> > this list suggests that all have to be part of the release. And if they
> are
> > not then they are just individual projects managed in/out of ASF, right?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Nov 1, 2015, at 17:10, Adam Estrada <estrada.adam@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The elasticsearch project has a really cool plugin utility that
> > automatically downloads and builds plugins from GitHub, BitBucket, etc...
> > >
> > > Has anyone taken a look at that?
> > >
> > > A
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ASF policy; a PMC should not be in the business of creating and
> > >> maintaining code 'somewhere else' and/or under another license, for
> > >> fear of confusion.
> > >>
> > >> Gray area -- some PMC members can be in that business, as long as the
> > >> boundary is clear.
> > >>
> > >> There was a thing called 'apache extras' for this. Unfortunately, it
> > >> was hosted as part of google code, which is defunct. As far as I know,
> > >> various plans to replace it have not come to fruition, but I might be
> > >> behind.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 3:04 PM,  <xmlking@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> How about maintaining a registry like npm https://www.npmjs.com or
> > https://github.com/jspm/registry where individuals host their modules on
> > github and users can discover them via registry?
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPad
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Joe Witt <joe.witt@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> " but raises several questions, all pertaining to the relationship
> of
> > >>>> this project with ASF, its ownership and control."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ...that is what I'm struggling to respond to as well.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It feels like the right path within the ASF is to establish child
> > >>>> projects of Apache NiFi.  I think we knew we needed to do this
> anyway
> > >>>> as we've mentioned before.  It just might be time now...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Oleg Zhurakousky
> > >>>> <ozhurakousky@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> Tony, plenty of opinion but so are the questions/concerns.
> > >>>>> Managing it on GitHub is perfect, but raises several questions,
all
> > pertaining to the relationship of this project with ASF, its ownership
> and
> > control.
> > >>>>> Perhaps some PMCs on the list can shed some light as to how
it
> could
> > be done?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>> Oleg
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 13:08, Adam Estrada <estrada.adam@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> This has been suggested before. It's a great idea!!! I
suggest
> > creating a repo on github for NiFi-Processors or something like that.
> There
> > are many more folks searching through GitHub than on the Apache wikis,
> IMO.
> > This will inevitably help spread the word...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Tony Kurc <trkurc@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Not very strong opinions on this?
> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2015 10:53 AM, "Joe Witt" <joe.witt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Tony,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I completely agree we should do this.  A quick
github search
> > reveals
> > >>>>>>>> there are some nice utilities/processors folks
have built for
> > NiFi but
> > >>>>>>>> for which they're not necessarily going to submit
them as PRs.
> We
> > >>>>>>>> should link to these as much as possible but we
should also help
> > folks
> > >>>>>>>> understand these aren't 'apache' things and are
not of the
> Apache
> > NiFi
> > >>>>>>>> community directly but they are good for users
and developers to
> > know
> > >>>>>>>> about.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps a wiki page linking to these is good provided
we have
> the
> > >>>>>>>> above sort of disclaimer and a healthy recognition
such
> references
> > >>>>>>>> will become stale...
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>> Joe
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Tony Kurc
<trkurc@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> All,
> > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to start a conversation about projects
that are good
> > for people
> > >>>>>>>>> using or developing NiFi, but either can't
or don't belong in
> > the source
> > >>>>>>>>> tree. This could be due to licensing issues
(for example not
> > compatible
> > >>>>>>>> (or
> > >>>>>>>>> not yet determined if it is compatible (GPL
[1])) with the
> Apache
> > >>>>>>>> License),
> > >>>>>>>>> or other thought provoking mild concerns like
we're discussing
> on
> > >>>>>>>> NIFI-1074
> > >>>>>>>>> [2].
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I'd like to propose either capturing these
on the website or on
> > the wiki
> > >>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>> some other approach I didn't think of. I was
hoping to find a
> > good
> > >>>>>>>>> archetype for this type of documentation in
another apache
> > project, but
> > >>>>>>>>> didn't find anything I personally liked. If
you have seen
> > something you
> > >>>>>>>>> like or don't, I'd be interested to hear.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
> > >>>>>>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-1074
> > >
> >
>

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