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From Bryan Bende <bbe...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Nifi cluster features - Questions
Date Sat, 09 Jan 2016 19:22:17 GMT
The sending node (where the remote process group is) will distribute the
data evenly across the two nodes, so an individual file will only be sent
to one of the nodes. You could think of it as if a separate NiFi instance
was sending directly to a two node cluster, it would be evenly distributing
the data across the two nodes. In this case it just so happens to all be
with in the same cluster.

The most common use case for this scenario is the List and Fetch processors
like HDFS. You can perform the listing on primary node, and then distribute
the results so the fetching takes place on all nodes.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016, Chakrader Dewaragatla <
Chakrader.Dewaragatla@lifelock.com> wrote:

> Bryan – Thanks, how do the nodes distribute the load for a input port. As
> port is open and listening on two nodes,  does it copy same files on both
> the nodes?
> I need to try this setup to see the results, appreciate your help.
>
> Thanks,
> -Chakri
>
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> Date: Friday, January 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM
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> Subject: Re: Nifi cluster features - Questions
>
> Hi Chakri,
>
> I believe the DistributeLoad processor is more for load balancing when
> sending to downstream systems. For example, if you had two HTTP endpoints,
> you could have the first relationship from DistributeLoad going to a
> PostHTTP that posts to endpoint #1, and the second relationship going to a
> second PostHTTP that goes to endpoint #2.
>
> If you want to distribute the data with in the cluster, then you need to
> use site-to-site. The way you do this is the following...
>
> - Add an Input Port connected to your PutFile.
> - Add GenerateFlowFile scheduled on primary node only, connected to a
> Remote Process Group. The Remote Process Group should be connected to the
> Input Port from the previous step.
>
> So both nodes have an input port listening for data, but only the primary
> node produces a FlowFile and sends it to the RPG which then re-distributes
> it back to one of the Input Ports.
>
> In order for this to work you need to set nifi.remote.input.socket.port in
> nifi.properties to some available port, and you probably want
> nifi.remote.input.secure=false for testing.
>
> -Bryan
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Chakrader Dewaragatla <
> Chakrader.Dewaragatla@lifelock.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Chakrader.Dewaragatla@lifelock.com');>>
> wrote:
>
>> Mark – I have setup a two node cluster and tried the following .
>>  GenrateFlowfile processor (Run only on primary node) —> DistributionLoad
>> processor (RoundRobin)   —> PutFile
>>
>> >> The GetFile/PutFile will run on all nodes (unless you schedule it to
>> run on primary node only).
>> From your above comment, It should put file on two nodes. It put files on
>> primary node only. Any thoughts ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Chakri
>>
>> From: Mark Payne <markap14@hotmail.com
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>> Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 11:28 AM
>>
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>> Subject: Re: Nifi cluster features - Questions
>>
>> Chakri,
>>
>> Correct - when NiFi instances are clustered, they do not transfer data
>> between the nodes. This is very different
>> than you might expect from something like Storm or Spark, as the key
>> goals and design are quite different.
>> We have discussed providing the ability to allow the user to indicate
>> that they want to have the framework
>> do load balancing for specific connections in the background, but it's
>> still in more of a discussion phase.
>>
>> Site-to-Site is simply the capability that we have developed to transfer
>> data between one instance of
>> NiFi and another instance of NiFi. So currently, if we want to do load
>> balancing across the cluster, we would
>> create a site-to-site connection (by dragging a Remote Process Group onto
>> the graph) and give that
>> site-to-site connection the URL of our cluster. That way, you can push
>> data to your own cluster, effectively
>> providing a load balancing capability.
>>
>> If you were to just run ListenHTTP without setting it to Primary Node,
>> then every node in the cluster will be listening
>> for incoming HTTP connections. So you could then use a simple load
>> balancer in front of NiFi to distribute the load
>> across your cluster.
>>
>> Does this help? If you have any more questions we're happy to help!
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Mark
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Chakrader Dewaragatla <
>> Chakrader.Dewaragatla@lifelock.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Chakrader.Dewaragatla@lifelock.com');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mark - Thanks for the notes.
>>
>> >> The other option would be to have a ListenHTTP processor run on
>> Primary Node only and then use Site-to-Site to distribute the data to other
>> nodes.
>> Lets say I have 5 node cluster and ListenHTTP processor on Primary node,
>> collected data on primary node is not transfered to other nodes by default
>> for processing despite all nodes are part of one cluster?
>> If ListenHTTP processor is running  as a dafult (with out explicit
>> setting to run on primary node), how does the data transferred to rest of
>> the nodes? Does site-to-site come in play when I make one processor to run
>> on primary node ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Chakri
>>
>> From: Mark Payne <markap14@hotmail.com
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>> Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:00 AM
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>> Subject: Re: Nifi cluster features - Questions
>>
>> Hello Chakro,
>>
>> When you create a cluster of NiFi instances, each node in the cluster is
>> acting independently and in exactly
>> the same way. I.e., if you have 5 nodes, all 5 nodes will run exactly the
>> same flow. However, they will be
>> pulling in different data and therefore operating on different data.
>>
>> So if you pull in 10 1-gig files from S3, each of those files will be
>> processed on the node that pulled the data
>> in. NiFi does not currently shuffle data around between nodes in the
>> cluster (you can use site-to-site to do
>> this if you want to, but it won't happen automatically). If you set the
>> number of Concurrent Tasks to 5, then
>> you will have up to 5 threads running for that processor on each node.
>>
>> The only exception to this is the Primary Node. You can schedule a
>> Processor to run only on the Primary Node
>> by right-clicking on the Processor, and going to the Configure menu. In
>> the Scheduling tab, you can change
>> the Scheduling Strategy to Primary Node Only. In this case, that
>> Processor will only be triggered to run on
>> whichever node is elected the Primary Node (this can be changed in the
>> Cluster management screen by clicking
>> the appropriate icon in the top-right corner of the UI).
>>
>> The GetFile/PutFile will run on all nodes (unless you schedule it to run
>> on primary node only).
>>
>> If you are attempting to have a single input running HTTP and then push
>> that out across the entire cluster to
>> process the data, you would have a few options. First, you could just use
>> an HTTP Load Balancer in front of NiFi.
>> The other option would be to have a ListenHTTP processor run on Primary
>> Node only and then use Site-to-Site
>> to distribute the data to other nodes.
>>
>> For more info on site-to-site, you can see the Site-to-Site section of
>> the User Guide at
>> http://nifi.apache.org/docs/nifi-docs/html/user-guide.html#site-to-site
>>
>> If you have any more questions, let us know!
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Mark
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 2:33 AM, Chakrader Dewaragatla <
>> Chakrader.Dewaragatla@lifelock.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Chakrader.Dewaragatla@lifelock.com');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Nifi Team – I would like to understand the advantages of Nifi clustering
>> setup.
>>
>> Questions :
>>
>>  - How does workflow work on multiple nodes ? Does it share the resources
>> intra nodes ?
>> Lets say I need to pull data 10 1Gig files from S3, how does work load
>> distribute  ? Setting concurrent tasks as 5. Does it spew 5 tasks per node
>> ?
>>
>>  - How to “isolate” the processor to the master node (or one node)?
>>
>> - Getfile/Putfile processors on cluster setup, does it get/put on primary
>> node ? How do I force processor to look in one of the slave node?
>>
>> - How can we have a workflow where the input side we want to receive
>> requests (http) and then the rest of the pipeline need to run in parallel
>> on all the nodes ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Chakro
>>
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