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From "James Strachan" <james.strac...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Ode / BPEL Donation of BPEL 2.0 Engine
Date Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:21:16 GMT
On 2/20/06, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I believe james agreed to some items when replying to this email from
> Paul[1]
>
> [1]
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=114020329404885&w=2


Note reusing some code across 2 engines is not the same thing as merging 2
engines into one single engine. Though I've just started a new thread to
discuss that particularly topic...

James

On 2/20/06, Hiram Chirino <hiram@hiramchirino.com> wrote:
> > Then I perhaps miss-directed the email.  Sorry for miss understanding
> > you.
> >
> > Is anybody on this mailing list who is willing to setup up to do the
> > code merge that seems to be a hop topic recently???
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hiram
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 20, 2006, at 10:08 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >
> > > I am asking to postpone the decision till we set up the infra stuff.
> > > that's all. As i mentioned in several previous emails[1]
> > >
> > > "People who end up sweating doing the day-to-day work will take the
> > > decisions"
> > >
> > > So far no one has sweated on the "APACHE ODE PROJECT".
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > dims
> > >
> > > [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-
> > > general&m=114023665807885&w=2
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/20/06, Hiram Chirino <hiram@hiramchirino.com> wrote:
> > >> Forwarding to ode-dev list from general incubator.
> > >>
> > >> So if the PPMC or PMC do not make technical decisions, why are you as
> > >> non-code contributor (for now), trying to force a code merge?
> > >> I would expect that any such proposal would come from a active
> > >> commiter from the community.  In other words, he who proposes such a
> > >> beast of work has the responsibility for implementing it.  :)
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Hiram
> > >>
> > >> Begin forwarded message:
> > >>
> > >>> From: "Davanum Srinivas" <davanum@gmail.com>
> > >>> Date: February 20, 2006 9:40:24 AM EST
> > >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: Ode / BPEL Donation of BPEL 2.0 Engine
> > >>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Reply-To: dims@apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>> Technical decisions do not belong to the PMC/PPMC. Nor do they
> > >>> belong
> > >>> in general@incubator. Let's get the ball rolling and attack these on
> > >>> ode-dev@.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/20/06, Hiram Chirino <hiram@hiramchirino.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Feb 18, 2006, at 2:23 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Why are you being so negative? Let's try to make it work. If
it
> > >>>>> does
> > >>>>> not then we decide what do next as a PPMC.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I did not know that technical decisions were the
> > >>>> responsibilities of
> > >>>> the PMC/PPMC.  Could you explain further?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Being negative for one second...i can safely say that in the
worst
> > >>>>> case scenario - Sybase and PXE folks do have other choices
> > >>>>> (codehaus,sf etc...) as they own the copyright to the code
that
> > >>>>> they
> > >>>>> contribute.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It's not nice to tell folks to leave if they don't want to do it
> > >>>> you
> > >>>> way.  As I see it, the ODE community which is made up mostly by
the
> > >>>> code contributers, still does not have consensus actually doing
a
> > >>>> code merge.  So lets not go crazy telling folks they should
> > >>>> elsewhere
> > >>>> when there is no need to do that.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Hiram
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> thanks,
> > >>>>> dims
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 2/18/06, James Strachan <james.strachan@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> To be clear - I was talking about the 2 Apache code bases
> > >>>>>> which are
> > >>>>>> seeded from Sybase and PXE.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> e.g. will existing PXE users happily sit on their hands
for a
> > >>>>>> year
> > >>>>>> patiently waiting for the grand unification? What if we
can never
> > >>>>>> agree the "one true engine"?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Users who come to our projects
> > >>>>>>> should be focused on what we're doing, and not looking
for
> > >>>>>>> support for
> > >>>>>>> vendor products.  Keep in mind that the package names
will
> > >>>>>>> change to
> > >>>>>>> org.apache.*,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I know - its exactly the org.apache.*  code I was talking
about.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> James
> > >>>>>> -------
> > >>>>>> http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-
> > >>>>>> help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
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> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
> > >>>
> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> -
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> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
>



--

James
-------
http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/

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