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From "Assaf Arkin" <ar...@intalio.com>
Subject Re: [gsoc] Monitoring Console / Architecture
Date Thu, 15 May 2008 06:44:17 GMT
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Tammo van Lessen <tvanlessen@gmail.com>

> Hi Assaf,
> Assaf Arkin wrote:
>> Here's four things I learned from trying to do that, which just didn't
>> work.
>>  There's more, but I think these four would be enough:
>> 1.  Quite early into the development you realize the UI and API are
>> optimized for different tasks, they quickly diverge and you end up with
>> components that have UI and API functionality, but they don't always
>> overlap.  It seems like a good idea -- reuse -- but the resulting code is
>> unfortunately harder to maintain than keeping the two separate.
>> 2.  If you're coming up with a new version of the API, it's generally a
>> good
>> idea to place it elsewhere than the original version, so each version gets
>> its own resources.  If you're coming up with a new version of the UI, it's
>> generally a good idea to place it where the old version was, preserving as
>> many resources as possible.
>> 3.  The API response to creating a new resource is 201, the UI response is
>> 303, unless you want some JavaScript code back to render the change, in
>> which case it would be 200.  The URL for an API update would point to the
>> resource you're changing (with a PUT), but the URL for a UI update would
>> point to a form which will then be used to make the update.
>> 4.  If you can request the same resource as HTML or JSON, you can imagine
>> using one to render a full page, and the other to just pull new data and
>> update existing page in-place.  Except browsers don't handle Vary, so the
>> second request would bring the cached HTML copy instead of the expected
>> JSON.
> Thanks, point taken. That it very interesting! Sounds like theory and
> practice aren't aligned here as well :) I should spend more time with
> playing with code...

I'm working now on a task manager for ODE, it's a sandbox project, if you
want to have a look at it.  Great place to experiment with some of these
issues, specifically because it serves both end-users and workflows, which
have different requirements.  And also because it will be pulled by the
forces of too-much AJAX on one side, and fondness for EJB/HTTP on the other


> Cheers,
>  Tammo

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