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From Zubin Wadia <zwa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Seeking active involvement from the community
Date Fri, 06 Oct 2017 16:20:31 GMT
Hi All,

Speaking of advancement, this is pretty interesting too, odd name
notwithstanding: https://tendermint.com/

Cheers,

Zubin

On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Paul Brown <paulrbrown@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Aaron --
>
> All sorts of things like that should be on the table, IMHO.  The original
> design for ODE dates back to 2003 or so, and the state of the art across
> the board in middleware has advanced a bit in the last 13 years.
>
> Cheers.
> -- Paul
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:07 AM Aaron Anderson <aanderson@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sathwik,
> > Is there any plan to support any other execution languages like
> executable
> > BPMN 2.0 or SCXML in the future or is the main focus of the project now
> > maintaining the current 1.X functionality? Perhaps I should continue to
> > research using Ignite for process execution and come back with my
> findings.
> > Regards,
> > Aaron
> >
> >     On Friday, October 6, 2017 1:18 AM, Sathwik B P <
> sathwik.bp@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Hi Aaron,
> >
> > Good to hear from you.
> >
> > We have added basic clustering capabilities using Hazelcast. JACOB now
> uses
> > JSON serialization with JACKSON. Both these feature are on the trunk and
> > will be coming in 1.4.
> >
> > We can definitely discuss improving the engine. I am game to make ODE
> more
> > modular in design, reactive and scalable keeping in mind a migration
> path.
> >
> > regards,
> > sathwik
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Aaron Anderson <aanderson@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Sathwik,
> > > I am a dormant Apache ODE committer and I would be interested in
> > > contributing to new development on Apache ODE. I attempted to build a
> > > prototype several years ago on github (https://github.com/
> > > aaronanderson/ODE-X) but I lost steam building the runtime execution
> > > engine. Based on my experience with the 1.X code base there was a large
> > > amount of complexity around concurrency, key value storage, and JPA
> > > persistence. These issues made clustering challenging if not
> impossible.
> > > These are the same challenges I tried to overcome with my own runtime
> > > engine design.
> > > Within the last year I got very excited when I came across the Apache
> > > Ignite in memory fabric which can solve all of these scalability
> > problems.
> > > Recently Ignite introduced built in persistence which would remove the
> > > requirement of needing a DB for persistence. Apache Ignite has many
> > useful
> > > features beyond simple caching such as messaging, flexible transaction
> > > management, and of course clustering. It is not difficult to imagine a
> > thin
> > > business process execution layer on top of Apache Ignite hydrating and
> > > dehydrating processes as requests are received and handled.
> > > I have my own ideas on building a general purpose virtual process
> > > execution runtime leveraging CDI and binary XML but the existing ODE
> > JACOB
> > > java serialization framework could work just as well with Apache
> Ignite.
> > If
> > > interested I can elaborate on my ideas further.
> > > Apache ODE uses antiquated technologies and there is a huge opportunity
> > to
> > > build a modern Cloud friendly Open Source business process engine
> > > exclusively using Apache sponsored technologies.
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    On Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:43 AM, Sathwik B P <
> > > sathwik.bp@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hi Community,
> > >
> > > Contributions and involvement from the community towards the project's
> > > growth over the time has considerably diminished. We are seeking new
> > > contributors / committers to continue the growth of the project.
> Anybody
> > > willing to help the community are welcome.
> > >
> > > There has been no much feedback post 1.3.7 release from the community.
> > >
> > > Am working on 1.3.8 release bringing on Java 8, Moving to JPA2 from
> JPA 1
> > > (OpenJPA 2.4.2 & Hibernate 4.3.11), Upgrading to Axis2 1.7.6 and
> Embedded
> > > server on TomEE7.0.4 which is now under release vote. Hope I might be
> > able
> > > to bring in the 1.3.8 release in the next quater.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > PMC Chair.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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