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From Antonio Sanso <asa...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: Questions for projects
Date Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:13:51 GMT
Hi Maciej,

thanks a lot for the update.
As noticed as well from you this IP clearance issue seems to be a pretty "big deal" for the
project.
IANAL but I think it would block our first release if we can not solve it. And consequently
this would block our potential graduation plan.
For this reason it would be nice to have a clear picture of the current situation  and also
from the past.
Just to be clear my intention is only to understand and trying to move forward. If any of
my questions would look inquisitive or "rude" I do apologize in advance.
As long as I understood Leeloo was a project started under the umbrella of the Newcastle University.
At a certain point you guys decided to donate to the ASF. 
Did the Newcastle University agreed at that point? If yes, does still agree now? If yes, :)
what is the real blocker/issue? Is it more a formal issue?
Is there any way we (project members/mentors) can help speed the process?

Thanks a lot for your effort on it and regards

Antonio


On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Maciej Machulak wrote:

> I've sent emails to various departments at my Uni and included OSS
> Watch to help. Since I've been in USA for some time now, unfortunately
> I cannot go and knock on people's doors directly. I see it's a huge
> issue and it's a total waste of the code that some other (Apache)
> projects cannot use it. I will do my best to see if there's any update
> on that issue and if we can move forward.
> 
> Cheers,
> Maciej
> 
> On 2 March 2012 05:48, Antonio Sanso <asanso@adobe.com> wrote:
>> Hi Maciej,
>> 
>> sorry to bother you again on it.
>> But do you have any update ?
>> I thinks is really time to seriously think about a release and it would be nice to
hear that also this topic is moving forward.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Antonio
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Maciej Machulak wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, that's the correct story. AFAIK there's some progress with the
>>> grant at the Uni. I've been told it might be issued shortly :-) I'll
>>> keep bugging them until the grant is issued, no worries ;)
>>> 
>>> Maciej
>>> 
>>> On 31 January 2012 15:10, Pid <pid@pidster.com> wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2012 22:52, Raymond Feng wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can somebody familiar with the project history summarize the code grant
issue? It will help us new folks get the context of the discussion.
>>>> 
>>>> Short version, (correct me if I'm wrong someone):
>>>> 
>>>> An OAuth 2.0 project, LeeLoo, was being developed by Maciej & Lukasz
who
>>>> work at Newcastle Uni.  We invited them to join the project with their code.
>>>> 
>>>> That code was committed to the repo before a grant was provided by
>>>> Newcastle Uni, whose copyright is on the code.
>>>> 
>>>> Maciej & Lukasz have been trying to get the Newcastle Uni legal people
>>>> to complete the grant, without success so far.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> p
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Raymond
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Pid wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 31/01/2012 15:50, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Pid,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Personally I can't help on the legal issues, I think directions/actions
>>>>>>> from our mentors are needed here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I mean that if we can't get a grant, we'll have to ditch the code.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the same, I would like to hear what progress the guys have made
and
>>>>>> if there's anything any of us can do to assist - perhaps by talking
to
>>>>>> the relevant people.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> p
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Pid * <pid@pidster.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2012, at 10:15, Tommaso Teofili <tommaso.teofili@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Not me unfortunately, I hope Lukasz or Maciej could be
able to do that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Should we start considering an alternative?  I am wincing
as I say it,
>>>>>>>> but if we can't make progress on the legal issue then we'll
have to
>>>>>>>> take some drastic action.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> p
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tommaso
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Antonio Sanso <asanso@adobe.com>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi *
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amber
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Any progress on the graduation issues mentioned
in the last report?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> What's the status with the mentioned "copyright
signoff from
>>>>>>>>>>> University of Newcastle"?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> is there anyone that would be able to give an answer
to Jukka (mail sent
>>>>>>>>>> to general@)?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [key:62590808]
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> [key:62590808]
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Maciej Machulak
>>> email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
>>> cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Maciej Machulak
> email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com
> cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)


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