From amber-dev-return-826-apmail-incubator-amber-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Mar 13 12:20:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-amber-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-amber-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EF8692F0 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2676 invoked by uid 500); 13 Mar 2012 12:20:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-amber-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 2649 invoked by uid 500); 13 Mar 2012 12:20:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact amber-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: amber-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list amber-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 2640 invoked by uid 99); 13 Mar 2012 12:20:57 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:20:57 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=FRT_ADOBE2,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of asanso@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.31 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.31] (HELO exprod6og113.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.31) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:20:50 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob113.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT187jZImdfe1dofhu7BpNBo7uOOXo1ZM@postini.com; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:20:29 PDT Received: from inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com ([153.32.1.51]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q2DCIRJ0029555 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nacas03.corp.adobe.com (nacas03.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.121]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q2DCKSMM017656 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eurcas01.eur.adobe.com (10.128.4.27) by nacas03.corp.adobe.com (10.8.189.121) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:20:28 -0700 Received: from eurmbx01.eur.adobe.com ([10.128.4.32]) by eurcas01.eur.adobe.com ([10.128.4.27]) with mapi; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:20:26 +0000 From: Antonio Sanso To: "amber-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:20:25 +0000 Subject: Re: Questions for projects Thread-Topic: Questions for projects Thread-Index: Ac0BE6vu30QgwgPLT2en246WFF7Rqw== Message-ID: <58686A1B-D684-4D32-B49B-2559B75F5A98@adobe.com> References: <80984EE6-0B71-4F94-815A-83677FA7D458@adobe.com> <-2081503742751255287@unknownmsgid> <2DFD6EE6-805F-4F13-AA79-15642B61DF20@adobe.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mar 13, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > Salut, >=20 > what is not clear to me how to think about possible solutions if we > still haven't understood the entity of the problem. >=20 I do agree with you. Problem here is that we have been stuck for a long whi= le now on this issue and we really need to do something in order to move fo= rward. Regards Antonio > Thanks for leading the issue, > -Simo >=20 > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi > http://www.99soft.org/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Antonio Sanso wrote: >> Hi Simone, >>=20 >> On Mar 13, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi +, >>>=20 >>> which alternative and drastic action you have in mind? Do you have any >>> suggestion? >>=20 >> I think I have tried to cover this in the other mail thread "Moving forw= ard (proposal) [was: Questions for projects]" >>=20 >> Regards >>=20 >> Antonio >>=20 >>>=20 >>> TIA! >>> -Simo >>>=20 >>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ >>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ >>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi >>> http://www.99soft.org/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Antonio Sanso wrote: >>>> Hi *, >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Pid * wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> On 31 Jan 2012, at 10:15, Tommaso Teofili = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Not me unfortunately, I hope Lukasz or Maciej could be able to do th= at. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Should we start considering an alternative? I am wincing as I say it= , >>>>> but if we can't make progress on the legal issue then we'll have to >>>>> take some drastic action. >>>>=20 >>>> not to be too pessimistic, but given the current status quo I am start= ing to reconsider what Pid has said. >>>>=20 >>>> WDYT? Should we start to think about a fallback plan ? >>>>=20 >>>> Regards >>>>=20 >>>> Antonio >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> p >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Tommaso >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 2012/1/31 Antonio Sanso >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Hi * >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Amber >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Any progress on the graduation issues mentioned in the last report= ? >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> What's the status with the mentioned "copyright signoff from >>>>>>>> University of Newcastle"? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> is there anyone that would be able to give an answer to Jukka (mail= sent >>>>>>> to general@)? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Antonio >>>>=20 >>=20