From amber-dev-return-809-apmail-incubator-amber-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Mar 6 09:14:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-amber-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-amber-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBCC89E91 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7473 invoked by uid 500); 6 Mar 2012 09:14:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-amber-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7356 invoked by uid 500); 6 Mar 2012 09:14:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact amber-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: amber-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list amber-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 7318 invoked by uid 99); 6 Mar 2012 09:14:31 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:14:31 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=FRT_ADOBE2,LOTS_OF_MONEY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of asanso@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.29 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.29] (HELO exprod6og112.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.29) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:14:22 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob112.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT1XVV8uDP3bXCkWeX24SKiOKm2MCHA4t@postini.com; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 01:14:01 PST Received: from inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (inner-relay-4.adobe.com [193.104.215.14]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q269BvJ0021159; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 01:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nacas01.corp.adobe.com (nacas01.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.99]) by inner-relay-4.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id q269DuPl024131; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 01:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from eurhub01.eur.adobe.com (10.128.4.30) by nacas01.corp.adobe.com (10.8.189.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 01:13:56 -0800 Received: from eurmbx01.eur.adobe.com ([10.128.4.32]) by eurhub01.eur.adobe.com ([10.128.4.30]) with mapi; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:13:53 +0000 From: Antonio Sanso To: Maciej Machulak CC: "amber-dev@incubator.apache.org" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:13:51 +0000 Subject: Re: Questions for projects Thread-Topic: Questions for projects Thread-Index: Acz7eXMaY8XljBf5TtS4a0OSq/tA1A== Message-ID: References: <80984EE6-0B71-4F94-815A-83677FA7D458@adobe.com> <-2081503742751255287@unknownmsgid> <4F286ECA.2030105@pidster.com> <0D9025B6-2544-48A8-8FB5-6C914D7CF417@gmail.com> <4F287500.9060505@pidster.com> <9D319AAD-C1A2-4D11-8551-3429C5BA7231@adobe.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi Maciej, thanks a lot for the update. As noticed as well from you this IP clearance issue seems to be a pretty "b= ig deal" for the project. IANAL but I think it would block our first release if we can not solve it. = And consequently this would block our potential graduation plan. For this reason it would be nice to have a clear picture of the current sit= uation and also from the past. Just to be clear my intention is only to understand and trying to move forw= ard. If any of my questions would look inquisitive or "rude" I do apologize= in advance. As long as I understood Leeloo was a project started under the umbrella of = the Newcastle University. At a certain point you guys decided to donate to the ASF.=20 Did the Newcastle University agreed at that point? If yes, does still agree= now? If yes, :) what is the real blocker/issue? Is it more a formal issue? Is there any way we (project members/mentors) can help speed the process? Thanks a lot for your effort on it and regards Antonio On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Maciej Machulak wrote: > I've sent emails to various departments at my Uni and included OSS > Watch to help. Since I've been in USA for some time now, unfortunately > I cannot go and knock on people's doors directly. I see it's a huge > issue and it's a total waste of the code that some other (Apache) > projects cannot use it. I will do my best to see if there's any update > on that issue and if we can move forward. >=20 > Cheers, > Maciej >=20 > On 2 March 2012 05:48, Antonio Sanso wrote: >> Hi Maciej, >>=20 >> sorry to bother you again on it. >> But do you have any update ? >> I thinks is really time to seriously think about a release and it would = be nice to hear that also this topic is moving forward. >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >> Antonio >>=20 >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Maciej Machulak wrote: >>=20 >>> Yes, that's the correct story. AFAIK there's some progress with the >>> grant at the Uni. I've been told it might be issued shortly :-) I'll >>> keep bugging them until the grant is issued, no worries ;) >>>=20 >>> Maciej >>>=20 >>> On 31 January 2012 15:10, Pid wrote: >>>> On 31/01/2012 22:52, Raymond Feng wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Can somebody familiar with the project history summarize the code gra= nt issue? It will help us new folks get the context of the discussion. >>>>=20 >>>> Short version, (correct me if I'm wrong someone): >>>>=20 >>>> An OAuth 2.0 project, LeeLoo, was being developed by Maciej & Lukasz w= ho >>>> work at Newcastle Uni. We invited them to join the project with their= code. >>>>=20 >>>> That code was committed to the repo before a grant was provided by >>>> Newcastle Uni, whose copyright is on the code. >>>>=20 >>>> Maciej & Lukasz have been trying to get the Newcastle Uni legal people >>>> to complete the grant, without success so far. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> p >>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Raymond >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Pid wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 31/01/2012 15:50, Tommaso Teofili wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Pid, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Personally I can't help on the legal issues, I think directions/act= ions >>>>>>> from our mentors are needed here. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I mean that if we can't get a grant, we'll have to ditch the code. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> All the same, I would like to hear what progress the guys have made = and >>>>>> if there's anything any of us can do to assist - perhaps by talking = to >>>>>> the relevant people. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> p >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Tommaso >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Pid * >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2012, at 10:15, Tommaso Teofili >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Not me unfortunately, I hope Lukasz or Maciej could be able to do= that. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Should we start considering an alternative? I am wincing as I say= it, >>>>>>>> but if we can't make progress on the legal issue then we'll have t= o >>>>>>>> take some drastic action. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> p >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Tommaso >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> 2012/1/31 Antonio Sanso >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Hi * >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Amber >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Any progress on the graduation issues mentioned in the last rep= ort? >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> What's the status with the mentioned "copyright signoff from >>>>>>>>>>> University of Newcastle"? >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> is there anyone that would be able to give an answer to Jukka (m= ail sent >>>>>>>>>> to general@)? >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Antonio >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> -- >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> [key:62590808] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>>=20 >>>> [key:62590808] >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Maciej Machulak >>> email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com >>> cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US) >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Maciej Machulak > email: maciej.machulak@gmail.com > cell: +1 650 468 1528 (US)