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From Daniel Shahaf <>
Subject Re: Fundraising
Date Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:05:30 GMT
I don't have any specific comment on this; you might talk to fundraising@.

Ian Lynch wrote on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 09:52:40 +0100:
> On 15 August 2011 02:20, Daniel Shahaf <> wrote:
> > Raphael Bircher wrote on Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 08:01:45 +0200:
> >
> > > I assume that a donnation to the ASF is only tax-free in the US.
> > > Every Country has here there oven criteria. That's the reason why
> > > Wikipedia has NGO's in each Country. It means, donnation to the ASF
> > > will not be Tax-Free in Switzerland.
> >
> > I'm aware of one case of an entity incorporated in Europe having wanted
> > to donate to the ASF but faced tax issues in the process.  They ended up
> > supporting the project in other ways.
> >
> > BTW: I don't see ASF having NGO's in each country.  Having one NGO is
> > enough overhead...
> >
> In the UK you have to be a registered Charity with a board of trustees to
> get tax relief on donations. Setting up a charity is much more involved than
> setting up a company. Many non-profit companies are either CICs or companies
> limited by guarantee rather than limited companies with shareholders. One
> reason why we are a straight limited company is that unless we were a
> charity there really isn't much advantage.
> One other method of getting resource into the projects is through EU grants.
> Over the last 2 years I have written 3 successful applications with a grant
> value of about 800,000 Euros.  Unfortunately, the recent
> application failed, but that was on a legal technicality because the
> submitting organisation in Germany was not the right type of legal entity
> :-( The application was deemed to be good enough. So I propose that we put
> in at least 2 versions of this through 2 different teams to different
> National Agencies. One for Apache OOo and one for LibO. Since the
> application is based on certification of end users we could "clone" this
> application further eg to other Apache projects that could benefit from
> skills certification or more generally other FOSS projects such as Inkscape,
> GIMP, Audacity etc. If anyone has any suggestions for Apache projects that
> could be candidates, or better still interest in running such a project
> please speak up. You need to be able to apply through a legal company or
> public sector body in an EU country. We can get grant funding to meet and
> plan and I will provide whatever support is necessary. I can find partners
> in a range of EU countries.
> We can apply for these grants each year (unless the EU changes the system).
> If we can use these to get viable certification programmes for FOSS going,
> that can then generate further income in perpetuity. It's low risk because
> the grants are not money that has to be repaid but it is in our (FOSS)
> interest to set up a sustainable business so that we are not dependent on
> them in the future.
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> Ian
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