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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: [WWW] Web analytics
Date Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:32:03 GMT
Am 08/13/2011 03:49 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Marcus (OOo)<>  wrote:
>> Am 08/13/2011 12:30 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> <snip>
>>> Remember, even if we used Piwik, the data would be in the US.  All
>>> user accounts for Apache, all wiki accounts, all mailing lists
>>> subscription data, etc., is in the US.  We have a jurisdiction.
>> So, it's in our hands to protect them and don't have to trust others
>> (companies).
> That's an interesting question.  Trust Google or trust ourselves?
> Where do you keep your retirement savings?  In a bank?  Or under your
> bed?
> I think Google has the incentive and the investment to ensure the
> security of the data.  If they screw it up, they lose billions.  If we
> screw it up, we say "whoops".  Which gives the visitors the best
> assurances?

Loosing billions? Hm, when I thought about the last news about data 
theft (like Sony with their PSN problem, Citibank has lost data of their 
customers, Apple has problems with the iPhone that collects a "little 
bit" too much data). So what? These companies are still alive.

> Of course, you could argue that Google is the larger target, and more
> people are trying to hack Google than are trying to hack Apache.  But
> that also means that Google has more resources deployed to harden
> their services against hacking.
> There are not perfect choices here.  But I still keep my money in the bank.

Me too. But I don't choose any bank. I look deep in the market and only 
banks with a clean behavior are in my choice to store my millions. I 
really try to think twice.

I don't carry something to someone who is making noise about his 
business. I wouldn't really trust them. You know, don't talk about 
things you are doing, just do it. ;-)

I would suggest to end this dicussion here as it goes into a wrong 
direction: too much of politics. ;-)



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