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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: [Discussion]
Date Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:17:11 GMT
Am 08/19/2011 08:56 PM, schrieb TJ Frazier:
> On 8/19/2011 11:57, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 08/19/2011 05:33 PM, schrieb TJ Frazier:
>>> Hi, Marcus
>>> On 8/19/2011 09:12, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> [snip]
>>>> E.g., I'm still managing the dev@distribution.oo.o and
>>>> mirrors@distribution.oo.o ML and 99% is spam (up to 20 per day).
>>> Are you doing any spam-reporting? I do that for almost every piece I
>>> receive, here at home, and get maybe one/month.
>>> C. and I had a running dispute as to how useful it would be, to chase
>>> down spammers on the wiki (instead of just blocking them). I didn't have
>>> access to the email addresses, so he won; we didn't.
>>> If I can be of any help, please feel free to email me directly. I've
>>> never done any ML moderating or managing, but (famous last words) how
>>> hard can it be? --/tj/
>> They're moderated ML, so I don't do anything with the mails. When you
>> reject anything then they got a reply and know it's a valid address.
>> I use the spam feature of Thunderbird to train the internal spam filter.
>> Today nearly all got into my spam folder. Here I just need to look for
>> false positives, otherwise delete finally. That's it.
>> After a while the mails get also deleted automatically in the ML system
>> without any reply back to the sender.
>> Marcus
> What I'm talking about doing is to complain to the ISP. Since Tb added
> the scroll feature for headers in v3, it's much easier. I look for the
> *real* sender, look that up, look up the "abuse@" address, and complain.
> Some ISPs are useless to complain to, but the big Western ones (Google,
> Yahoo, MS, RR, AT&T, ...) are usually quite responsive and will close
> the account. My hope is that they can get a bigger picture from the
> complaints, and track down some of the spammers for prosecution.
> Does it work? Well, with the exception of one Chinese spam-list whose
> ISP is unresponsive, I never get spam from the same sender twice.
> Whether my efforts are only minor harassment, or the straw that breaks a
> 50,000-bot network, I'll never know. But it feels good to harass the
> spammers back.

Haven't thought about this as it consumes too much of my time; 
especailly in these days.


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