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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: [Discussion]
Date Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:28:18 GMT
I've updated the text on "" 
(with borrowed text from Mathias).


Am 08/19/2011 07:57 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> Am 08/19/2011 07:29 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Marcus (OOo)<>
>> wrote:
>>> Am 08/19/2011 06:34 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> <snip>
>>>> So why wouldn't we want to shut down that list?
>>> Why are you asking when you want to do it anyway? ;-)
>> Clearly I have my own opinion on this. But I'd like to understand the
>> counter-argument, if there is one.
> OK, didn't knew this.
>>>> Real posts at are infrequent and are not getting
>>>> responded to. But ooo-dev is clearly where the thriving dev
>>>> discussion is occurring.
>>>> Aren't these good reasons to consolidate the dev discussion in one
>>>> place? Is there any advantage to have it be fragmented across two
>>>> lists, especially if one list is mainly getting spam?
>>> If so, it would be the same reason to shutdown also other mailing
>>> lists. So,
>>> we could do it will all.
>> I think the dev list is special, because we have an active Apache list
>> that has the identical purpose. The same is not true for many other
>> lists.
> There is nothing special. For OOo we had hundreds of ML to keep the
> traffic in the right channels.
> Her at AOO we have only one. So all traffic (and it's more than just dev
> related) into 1 ML.
> For me there is no real difference.
>>> As Mathias said, the shutdown will happen anyway. No need to force it.
>> We are currently missing opportunities when new volunteers post to the
>> other list and do not get a response. Also, existing subscribers to
>> the list are missing out on the discussions we are
>> having regarding things like reorganizing the source repository, etc.
>> The goal should be to encourage existing subscribers to move over to
> You have told this already. Then just write a note to dev@ooo; if
> Mathias hasn't done it already. ;-)
>> ooo-dev. There are several ways of doing this. An announcement, like
>> Matthias sent, is a good thing. Maybe also update this page:
>> For lists that have been migrated, put instructions there on how to
>> subscribe to the Apache list.
> Good point, let me see if I can do something. But to have a real success
> we need to make this change everywhere. And IMHO this is not possible;
> or at least it's a not maintainable effort.
>> If we delay shutting down the list until a later point, that is fine
>> with me. I just wanted to see if anyone thought there was a reason to
>> preserve the list longer-term.
> OK
> Marcus

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