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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: [Was: Re: [Discussion]]
Date Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:09:36 GMT
Am 08/24/2011 02:10 AM, schrieb Gavin McDonald:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marcus (OOo) []
>> Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 12:05 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Was: Re: [Discussion]
>> Am 08/23/2011 03:29 PM, schrieb Eike Rathke:
>>> Hi Marcus,
>>> On Tuesday, 2011-08-23 11:11:35 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> And very often they write to the list but aren't subscribed. So they
>>>> don't get the answer unless someone is CC'ing them.
>>> That actually is a failure of how the list is setup when it has
>>> Reply-To pointing to the mailing list address (AKA Reply-To mangling).
>>> Without Reply-To a Reply-All goes to the sender and the mailing list.
>> Maybe, but they are still not subscribed. So the moderator has to let the
>> posts through; again and again until the user is subscribed.
> ew,, no that does not have to happen at all.
> the moderator can do a reply-all , choose the -accept and the -allow
> addresses
> then hit send. (of the moderation email).
>  From then on, no more moderation of that user using that email address.
> No need to repeatedly let the same user in.

Of course it depends on the intelligence of the used ML system. Thanks 
for the hint. I didn't know that this is possible in general. ;-)


>>>> In a forum all in one place. You can search, write and can get
>>>> answers. It's up to us if a subscription is needed. It would work
>>>> without.
>>>> Furthermore, I don't think that mailing lists are common for the
>>>> average user. But forums are.
>>> Mailing lists are much more accepted by those who actually help
>>> because handling is much easier than any web forum. You can setup your
>>> own scoring, flags, delete unimportant stuff in your personal archive
>>> and so on. To get the best of both worlds best would be a forum gated
>>> to a mailing list and vice versa. Searching the mailing list would
>>> also be possible at, or gmane..
>> Not before they got to know how this is working. In a forum it is obvious.
> All
>> is in one place.
>>>>> What if we just had support forums, but no users list?  Would we
>>>>> miss anything?  Would users?  Note that phpBB forums allow a person
>>>>> to subscribe to a forum or a topic, so those who want to receive
>>>>> emails can.  But they would need to go back to the forum website to
>> respond.
>>> And that just sucks.
>>>> I don't think that we or the users would miss anything because there
>>>> is no chance to miss something as the communitation method is not
>>>> existing.
>>> Well, I try to avoid forums whenever possible.
>> And there are users that try to avoid mailing lists. ;-)
>> At the end it seems the best solution is still to go 2 ways: ML and forum.
>> Marcus

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