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From Pedro Giffuni <>
Subject Re: working on a OpenOffice roadmap
Date Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:25:06 GMT
Hi Simon;

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Ethos is
something that goes well beyond a license, and once you
read the iCLA its not an imposible thing to ask ( you
signed it), and its surely not what SUN had in place.

That said, and its something I have argued about
publicly with Rob, while the iCLA is a requisite to
become a committer, it is not a requisite to contribute.

Furthermore, once we start doing releases (and trust me,
we will get there) they are likely to start including AL2
code anyways.

Am I naive? Yes. I was never part of the previous OOo
community led by SUN so perhaps not having that trauma
helps me see things a lot simpler than they are.

There is an evident lack of confidence in us over there
and as I said before, in private, we cant start activities
like a shared security list if there is no confidence first.

I stand to the principle that we are neutral, and that
every vendor or community member is free to join or leave
whenever they want


--- On Tue, 10/25/11, Simon Phipps <> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011
> at 8:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni <>
> wrote:
> If libreoffice encourages, but not requires, AL2
> for stuff in the core package, that would be a huge
> advance to get a bit nearer both camps.
> Given licenses are the expression of the ethos of a
> community, it's disingenuous and divisive to assume any
> community will drop its governance approach like this,
> Pedro. It translates as "the path to collaboration is
> your surrender; we can negotiate once you've done
> that".  You make it sound so innocent, too, by missing
> out the other requirement that Apache would have for
> contributors to sign an ICLA and thus join Apache :-)
> S.

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