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From Andre Fischer>
Subject Re: Installation Experience and Feedback
Date Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:17:17 GMT

On 11.06.2012 16:51, O.Felka wrote:
> Am 11.06.2012 16:37, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>> On 11.06.2012 15:53, O.Felka wrote:
>>>>>> AFAICT, the unpacked files are only needed for installation, and
>>>>>> still has the initial download, so why clutter up the disk?
>>>>> this is not true. The unpacked files are needed for the so called
>>>>> 'maintenance mode': Starting the setup from the control panel offers
>>>>> you
>>>>> a repair and a modify mode. That's what the unpacked files are needed
>>>>> for.
>>>>> What we might delete is the packed file.
>>>> But do we really need the maintenance mode?  There are not that many
>>>> applications on my system that offer one.  We are talking about 130 MB
>>>> of additional disk space.
>>> As long as we don't install the complete office we need the maintenance
>>> mode.
>>> Applications that don't offer several modules as AOO does don't need a
>>> 'Modify' mode.
>>> If we want to offer to install e.g. only the Calc application we need
>>> the maintenance mode for these users that wants to use the Writer to a
>>> later time also.
>>> The 'Repair' option is also a part of the maintenance mode.
>> The question is whether there are more people annoyed by a folder on
>> their desktop that contains files that hardly ever used or users that
>> install only a part of the application then change their mind later.
> As we don't have any information it would end up in wild guessing.
> comparing these two user groups is meaningless at this point.

No not meaningless, just not easily possible.

> As we started with the self extracting installer we've had to decide
> where to place the unpacked files. The desktop is the place where you
> can't oversee them.

That is one thing I still don't understand.  Why is it important that 
the user has to find these files.  The installation starts automatically 
after the downloaded archive has been extracted.  A repair or change is 
triggered via a system dialog.  What is the use case in which the user 
has to click on any of the downloaded files directly?

> Every user has option to unpack these file at a different location.

We still need a better default.

>>> As have written before, it's an option to delete the unpacked file to
>>> save disk space. The unpacked files can be used easier to distribute the
>>> AOO without downloading.
>>> In times of hard disks with TB size saving 130 MB is not so important
>>> for me.
>> Maybe not for you.
> As I have written.

In another issue regarding extensions installed in the user directory 
you where not so forgiving about disk space.


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