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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: Java download link on AOO site
Date Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:49:03 GMT

That's not why I provide documentation.  I don't know why Hagar invests all of the effort
he does in tending the English-language Community Forums.  I doubt it is self-defense.

I think the present misunderstanding may be related to different pictures of the worlds each
of us lives in.  Projecting one's own world onto that of another, without considering there
may be entirely different perspectives involved simply inhibits communication and learning.
 Especially learning.

The abundant evidence suggests to me that Hagar's devotion to OpenOffice is invested in user-facing
support and there are preferred, already at-hand tools that serve his fulfillment of that

When a tool is not already at-hand, learning it will always introduce friction and distraction
from a direct, already-available path.  

Also, a particular tool may not work very well in the existing practices of a contributor.
 For example, I avoid browser-based authoring when at all possible, since the risk of lost
work is too high and I want an opportunity to reflect and refine off-line.

The generalities and divisiveness around the merits of mailing lists, forums, wikis, version-control
systems, and content-management approaches demonstrates to me that one-size does not fit all.
 Asking someone to retool is not trivial except from the perspective of those already invested
and loving it.

I find that some old dogs prefer to go where there is still limitless mileage in the old tricks.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Schaefer [] 
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:58
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site

[ ... ]
You write documentation largely as a means of self-defense so people
will read it before occupying your time doing it for them, because it simply
doesn't scale as a mode of operation.  Nobody paid anyone to service their needs,
so expecting others to do your work for you is anathema.

[ ... ]

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