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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: Mwiki is moved into maintenance mode.
Date Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:58:34 GMT
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Dave Fisher <> wrote:
> Hi Jani,
> Thanks for the MWiki work. I think that there are several discussions needed in order
to start the process of converting CWiki to MWiki and "modernize" MWiki.
> Forgive me if I am ignorant of work that may be done already.
> Discussions could be:
> 1. Agreement on the Taxonomy of Categories.
> 2. Reorganize the main MWiki page.
> 3. Retirement strategy with redirects from important old pages that are external link

And we do have several of these, for example the bounce message we use
for emails to addresses refers to a CWiki page.  A few
blog posts have referenced CWiki pages, as well.  Unfortunately
identifying these (except for the well-known ones) will be hard, since
we don't have logs or Google Analytics for CWiki. But Infra might have
access to useful data here.

> 4. CWiki may serve a purpose as an idea scratch pad as it is very easy to use (at least
for me). Limit the migration away from it to important documentation like build instructions.
The separation may prove useful.

It might parallel the project-volunteer view of
versus user-view of  But that could also be done
with distinct areas on a single wiki.

> BTW - Have we solved the registration problem for MWiki?
> Regards,
> Dave
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:51 AM, janI <> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> We have just completed the last optimization of wiki.o.o, which means that
>> it has entered maintenance mode.
>> There is one outstanding bugzilla issue, which will be implemented if we
>> can find a supported solution.
>> Now would be a good time to think about the other things we have discussed
>> earlier:
>> - Move cwiki to mwiki.
>>   this has been discussed/decided earlier, but might need a positive
>> decision.
>>   I for one find it very confusing to look in 2 wikis for the same
>> information (e.g. build instructions)
>> - Mark outdated paged with category outdated, and symbol on page
>>  A lot of the information in wiki is outdated and superseeded by new
>> pages, its hard to find the correct info.
>>  If outpdated paged had the category "outdated" it would be easy to change
>> search to excluded these
>> - Put categories on all pages, and structure the pages
>>  Due to the very limited maintenance the page structure and catagory usage
>> seems very random.
>> We can hopefully expect high traffic volume when we release 4.0, which
>> gives a natural timelimit when the wiki should be streamlined. Unless of
>> course, the community does not find it embarrasing to have text like:
>> "Teams
>> This section is partly outdated. Visit Apache
>> OpenOffice<>for
>> actual information."
>> on the front page, highlighting the priority of maintaining the wiki.
>> Doing the work needed is too much for one person, it requires a small team.
>> And based on my experience touching information can generate a lot of
>> feelings, so the team should preferable contain enough "old" volunteers to
>> guarantee that the changes are done historically correct.
>> I will keep doing the running maintenance of the wiki2 server.
>> Rgds
>> jan I.

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