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From Louis Suárez-Potts <>
Subject Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite
Date Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:19:52 GMT

On 13-03-27, at 11:15 , Malte Timmermann <> wrote:

> Hi Louis,
> On 24.03.2013 00:38, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>> On 13-03-23, at 19:11 , "Dennis E. Hamilton" <> wrote:
>>> The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc., are
Creative Commons attribution-share-alike-noncommercial.  None of that is Apache friendly.
>> Indeed; hence my wistful hope.
>>> More information:
>>> <>.
>>> The licenses apply to different parts of the code base.
>>> From this <>
>>> I notice that Martin Holmichel is Senior Product Manager and that Malte Timmerman
is Head of Development in Hamburg.
>> Quite. I am indeed sorry that both Malte and Martin chose this path but it's quite
possible they chose wisely—let's see.
> Assuming that you talk about working for Open-Xchange now (instead of staying full time
OOo contributors), and not about the choice of licenses (which OX is using for many years
> I guess most people here know that we didn't chose to stop working on OOo full time,
but that it was purely Oracle's decisions to - let's put it this way - not to have an OOo
team anymore…

I'm actually laughing at your choice of words. Indeed, that was the decision, but in fairness
to O., the seeds of self-destruction were planted early. Which is why I'm actually glad, if
less gainfully employed, to see Apache OO and now Open-Xchange continue with developing the
code in interesting ways.

> And believe me - with working for Open-Xchange now, Malte and Martin did choose wisely

> Like did the many other people from the former Sun/Oracle team, who now
work in the OX Hamburg team too.
> Actually, these people make up a 100% of the Hamburg team. OX launched the Hamburg site
just for/with us.

> OX is a nice place to work. Nice people, great product.
> Open Source for a long time, now also with office productivity.
> Afterwards, everybody here is happy that Oracle gave us "the opportunity" to work for
Open-Xchange on OX Documents now - nobody is looking back.

Right; none should. My interest is and always has been in seeing the future. But this is a
public list, and I'd be happy to talk to old friends and colleagues off list. Less embarrassing,
I suppose. :-)


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