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From janI <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.
Date Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:24:34 GMT
On 31 March 2013 08:51, imacat <im,
acat@mail.imacat.idv.tw<imacat@mail.imacat.idv.tw>
> wrote:

>     Sorry I was not able to attend to this discussion in the past couple
> of days.
>
>     Yes, I have no access to ooo-wiki2 ever since.  And no, I worked
> with gmcdonald and danielsh for my ooo-wiki2 access on 2013/1/20
> 5:02am-7:36am GMT+0, but failed.  For more than two hours all of us
> cannot find anything that may deny my access.  We had tried everything
> we could think of.  I'm looking at my IRC log now.  Sorry I did not try
> again.  I see no new possibility to solve my access problem, I had to
> return to my paper, and I thought I can depend on janI for a short time.
>

Thanks for trying to stay on the boat, you are a key person being full part
of both infra and aoo.

You (and the community) can depend on me, I wanted (and want) to help keep
the servers running by trying to become part of infra,  but it is no fun
working in a project without the possibility of being part of the project.
I have not quit, but simply put infra work at a lower priority than my l10n
work.


>     I'm more than happy to keep the package updated on ooo-wiki2, as I
> do now on ooo-forum and previously on ooo-wiki, once my ooo-wiki2 access
> problem is solved.  That does not take extra time.
>

The outstanding issues with our servers are documented in jira:
INFRA-5767 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5767>
INFRA-6070 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6070>
INFRA-6071 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6071>

and bugzilla also contains some open issues for mwiki.

rgds
jan I.


On 2013/03/28 18:36, janI said:
> > On 28 March 2013 06:56, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/28/13 3:37 AM, janI wrote:
> >>> Online again.
> >>
> >> thanks for taking care of it
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> somehow fs decided to go r/o, which caused mysql and pam to stop,
> >> requiring
> >>> the knife method for reboot. After reboot part of the config was lost
> >> (raw
> >>> devices), which I created again.
> >>>
> >>> Infra politely reminded me, that there are
> >>>    - 91 packages that can be updated
> >>>    and some security patches (no details listed in this mail)
> >>>
> >>> I thought some of the others took care of that, as they used to (I have
> >>> just heard that I am the only aoo with access, because the others
> havent
> >>> asked for it yet) ?
> >>>
> >>> If I am really the only one caring for our mwiki, I agree with rob愀
> >>> concern about a single person being a risk !!
> >>>
> >>> Any thought on how we can remedy this situation ?
> >>
> >> We can summarize/document the things that are most important to know and
> >> how typical problems have to be addressed. How to get notified and how
> >> start the necessary steps.
> >>
> > It is documented, more than it have ever been.
> > - Ubuntu/ATS/httpd/mysql/mwiki maintenance is documented on the
> respective
> > sites
> > - All our changes are documented in infra svn
> >
> >  Searching for volunteers who are really committed and able to fix
> >> problems. And who are interested to build the necessary minimal skills.
> >>
> > Define the communication plan in case of any problems, who start working
> >> on it etc to avoid duplicate work.
> >>
> >
> > The same for other critical services. I know it is not easy to find
> >> enough people to cover it completely but it should be our goal to staff
> >> a small (but working) team of volunteers.
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Keeping in mind that a working infra structure with important running
> >> services is important and keeping it running is a very important and
> >> valuable contribution to the project.
> >>
> >
> > I totally agree on that point, which is why I have been active daily for
> 4
> > month on #asfinfra helping with different issues (more non AOO than
> AOO), I
> > thought I had earned some merit, but it seems I lack some skills to be
> part
> > of that project.
> >
> > I understand from the comment, that the point I tried to make was not
> > direct enough, so let me make it clear.
> >
> > At the moment there are 5 AOO committers (if I count correctly) who are
> > also Infra committers and passive online more or less daily on #asfinfra
> (2
> > online last night and a third logged on during the incident).
> >
> > A couple of weeks ago, #asfinfra started using a ranking system (my word
> > for it). Infra committers had a + added to their nick (was given voice),
> > when I asked on the list why, I got the following answer:
> >    "Today there are 80 people online, we want to be able to see regulars"
> >
> > I am not infra, it seems I lack some skills and I dont like being second
> > rank (while doing a lot of work), so that was the day I decided to stay
> off
> > the channel, if being online and active daily for months is not "regular"
> > then it is not a place for me.
> >
> > The nagios alert woke me up last night, and it took me small 3 hours to
> get
> > it back online (with the help of gmcdonald), and I asked myself why do
> this
> > when I am seen as a non regular second rank person.
> >
> > So please consider this my notice from mwiki.
> >
> > I will not spent time providing a service level in a project which I am
> not
> > considered part of, I will leave that to those who are part of infra/AOO
> > and concentrate my programming work here in AOO where my work at least is
> > being seen essential.
> >
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Juergen
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> rgds
> >>> jan I.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 28 March 2013 02:13, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> ah spoke too soon, it was the cache talking
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/27/13, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
> >>>>> I am able to access it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/27/13, janI <jani@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> hi.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just got an alert that wiki is down (1 night in spain), and
it
> seems
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> have a severe problem, prohibiting me from doing sudo and restoring
> >> it.
> >>>>>> The
> >>>>>> people at infra-root who have backdoor access is not available
on
> irc
> >> at
> >>>>>> the moment, so I hope they will notice during the next hours.
I need
> >>>> them
> >>>>>> to reboot, because a lot of services simply stopped running
(incl.
> pam
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> mysql).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will check on the situation in the morning (about 8 hours
from
> now).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> rgds
> >>>>>> jan I.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Alexandro Colorado
> >>>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> >>>>> http://es.openoffice.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Alexandro Colorado
> >>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> >>>> http://es.openoffice.org
> >>>>
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