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From J├╝rgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: update service for not released languages [was: Re: Registration]
Date Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:22:28 GMT
On 4/4/13 8:26 AM, janI wrote:
> On 4 April 2013 06:19, Juergen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Am Mittwoch, 3. April 2013 um 22:46 schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/03/2013 janI wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3 March 2013 17:47, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Check on the Pootle 2.5 release date and features.
>>>>> I would like to see it running on other sites the translate itself,
>> but I
>>>>>
>>>>> am just a negative (have been too long in support). My rule of thumb
>> is
>>>>> release date + 1 month, in order not to fight fight with start
>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here I agree with Rob that we need to set a deadline. A natural one is
>> the
>>>> translation period set at https://cwiki.apache.org/**
>>>> confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**AOO+4.0+Release+Planning<
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning>(beginning
>> in one month). So, considering installation and testing, we
>>>> would need Pootle 2.5 to be available soon. I've asked the developers
>> if
>>>> they have a timeline, just to get an idea.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Almost a month has passed since I made this proposal. Do we have a sense
>>> now whether the Pootle upgrade will occur in time for AOO 4.0
>>> translations? Or I should I go ahead with the a call for translations for
>>> AOO 4.0 using POEdit and similar off-line tools? This would include
>>> reaching out to users via the update notification mechanism.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I will try to figure it out today...
>> But it is to early and we don't have the new translation files in place
>> yet. We have to merge the sidebar branch first and that is already in
>> preparation.
>>
>> 2.5 is not released and will most problaly not make it before we need it.
> BUT the translation interface have not changed, it is inner working and
> download possibilities.
> 
> I think we need offline tools, I would not to mass translation on the
> server.
> 
> To me the bigger question is, do we start translation with our current file
> structure, or will genLang be in place (heavely reduced file count).
> Integration into build system has been a lot more difficult than i
> expected, especially for helpcontent2. I have concentrated on helpcontent2,
> and are very close with that, so I expect us to take a discussion/vote next
> week, whether or not to integrate it in trunk.

Hi Jan,

having the new tooling in place would be great but we don't have
pressure. We should take all the time that we need to make it final and
complete and well tested. Before we integrate it we should test your
branch with some languages in detail on at least 3 platforms (Linux,
windows, MacOS).

You did a fantastic job and it will be a huge step forward. We can
integrate it probably at any time when it is ready.

On the other hand it is a very important part of our build system and my
experience told me that we should test it deeply. Don't get me wrong I
am sure you made a good job here, it's simply that I have seen too often
that we got many problems with less.

Don't put yourself under pressure.

I can build your branch on MacOS. What do I have to do exactly to
trigger your new tooling? I will ping you on IRC ...

Juergen




> 
> rgds
> Jan I
> 
>> Juergen
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2) Check that policy-wise it's fine to authenticate committers on LDAP
>> and
>>>>>> all other volunteers on a local backend. ...
>>>>>
>>>>> infra (gmcdonald) was not positive, but I still think we
>>>>> have a case and should go for it...I do however think a compromise
>> could
>>>>> be
>>>>> a signed ICLA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This has been clarified in the meantime on the Incubator lists (in a
>>>> discussion otherwise unrelated to OpenOffice). No ICLA needed.
>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-**
>>>>
>> general/201303.mbox/%3CCAAS6%**3D7hybut%**3DLGZQRkuuJPXKK4KPS6CiXDYE5-**
>>>> QTmvguYHOVFA%40mail.gmail.com%**3E<
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201303.mbox/%3CCAAS6%3D7hybut%3DLGZQRkuuJPXKK4KPS6CiXDYE5-QTmvguYHOVFA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3) Optimize performance so that Pootle is actually usable by several
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is something on my list of todos, and infra ask me regulary
>> when I do
>>>>> it. ...a bottle of good italian wine when if finally works,
>>>>> together with genLang.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK. And OK for the bottle too!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andrea.
>>>>
>>>>
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