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From Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Extensions
Date Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:22:23 GMT
On 10/25/13 4:59 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic wrote:
> I wrote: "(...) live AOO because nothing works there."
> It should be:"(...) leave AOO because nothing works there."

if an author of an extension is not interested to support AOO anymore we
can't change it.

Juergen


> 
> Wlada
> 
> 
> 2013/10/25 Vladislav Stevanovic <stevanovicvladislav@gmail.com>
> 
>>
>> Yes, we can do this. It must be marked in anyway. But the situation is
>> more complex. AOO now suffer because users can not get functionality as
>> they had before. If this extension is important for users work, why should
>> someone think that user will stay on AOO? Next, there is also a bad
>> marketnig for AOO, see
>> http://www.dmaths.org/documentation/doku.php?id=presentation:en The
>> message is clear: live AOO because nothing works there.
>> To be honest, we create this situation, not users. At list, we must try to
>> somehow fix this by pushing authors of extensions to make necessery
>> changes, or, if it is possible, that we made some improvement in our code
>> and fix this problem.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Wlada
>>
>>
>> 2013/10/25 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com>
>>
>>> On 10/25/13 11:30 AM, janI wrote:
>>>> On 25 October 2013 11:15, Vladislav Stevanovic <
>>>> stevanovicvladislav@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2013/10/25 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we can simply define a rule that unmaintained extension will be
>>> removed
>>>>>> when the owner doesn't reply on mail requests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That means we can send a mail to the owner and if he doesn't reply
at
>>>>>> all or is not willing to add these information, we remove the
>>> extensions
>>>>>> completely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is my opinion too, but you have people who still using previous
>>>>> version of AOO or Ooo. We must have solution and for those people.
>>> Maybe we
>>>>> can do this in a few stages:
>>>>> 1) We can marked all old extensions as incompatible for AOO4.0. In the
>>> same
>>>>> time, we will sent meil to the authors of this extensions with request
>>> to
>>>>> make changes for compatibility for AOO 4.0. in next 6 months. After
>>> that
>>>>> period, if job is not done, we will remove this extensions.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> why should we make more noise than necessary, we should mark only
>>> extensions where we know that they don't work
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Inside this period of 6 months, we will improved filter option for
>>>>> searching by version of Oo. On every page on this site there will be
>>> notice
>>>>> that old extension will be completely removed in the end of 6 month.
>>>>> (second option will be: removed in other place, something like
>>> backstage;
>>>>> it will not be visible in the regular pages like it is now).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can we not do something so that user will normally only "see" 4.0
>>>> compatible packages ?
>>>>
>>>> maybe put non-compatible extensions in a archive section, just an idea.
>>>>
>>>> If we just filter people searching might not see an extension if the
>>> name
>>>> changed (like pdf).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 3) After 6 months, we will sent mail to the authors of extension again
>>> that
>>>>> we can offer another 7 days to do this changes, if not, we will remove
>>> (or
>>>>> move in some other place) this extension. In the mail, we can also say
>>> that
>>>>> we will be happy to see this changes, to keep this known extension in
>>> live.
>>>>> But, if that not happens, we will calling our community to make new
>>> version
>>>>> for AOO4.0. because it is our obligations to ensure the availability
>>> of all
>>>>> existing features.
>>>>>
>>>> I would do the move (not remove) without any further delay.
>>>>
>>>> rgds
>>>> jan I.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment, please?
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Wlada
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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