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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] maintenance of ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o and ooo-forums.a.o
Date Thu, 02 Jan 2014 19:10:59 GMT
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> We have now reached the end of the lazy consensus period.
>
> There has been no -1, a couple of comments and a couple of +1, this means
> the proposal is accepted.
>
> However, I have to admit, I think we have a big problem.
>
> If I go ahead with the proposal (as lazy consensus suggest), and follow the
> idea from Andrea. I would have to remove a large part of the vm team. Only
> andrea has reacted at all (with a +1), and according to the idea from
> andrea we should revoke the others karma.
>
> Can it really be true, that the current vm team dont want to take if I take
> lead ? In that case it would be highly wrong of me to use the lazy
> consensus.
>

The problem is timing.  Quite a few people are still on holiday and
will not return until next week.  In fact this whole thing has been
discussed in a time when several people were away.

-Rob


> I can understand a lot of subscribers to this list, dont care (as long as
> the services are available), but given the previous debate (and the focus
> on forcing me to forward a new proposal), I would have expected the PMC
> group to voice their opinion, and also the current vm team.
>
> We cannot just overrule the current sysadm, that does not feel fair !!
>
> Any thoughts ?
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
> On 29 December 2013 16:09, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> top posting.
>>
>> A friendly reminder, this LAZY Consensus proposal runs until january 2nd.
>>
>> Until now, no -1 has been received.
>>
>> Andrea is the only team member that has given a +1
>>
>> the other team members (jsc, imacat, arist) have not expressed any opinion
>> yet.
>>
>> Wish you all a happy new year.
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 December 2013 17:39, Andrew Pitonyak <andrew@pitonyak.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I have been following as best I can while traveling, and it is not my
>>> place to say, but I agree....
>>>
>>> jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 28 December 2013 16:19, Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 22/12/2013 jan i wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> based on a polite push from a good infra colleague,  I have decided
to
>>> >>> present yet another proposal for maintaining ooo-wiki2-vm.a.o and
>>> >>> ooo-forums.a.o
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> I agree with the proposal, so +1 from me.
>>> >>
>>> >> The main value it brings is that we will have a common (and
>>> lightweight)
>>> >> set of rules that allow us to establish some initial guidelines. This
>>> will
>>> >> make it easier to include new volunteers later, or promote existing
>>> >> volunteers to sysadmin role, or do whatever we agree upon, at due
>>> time. But
>>> >> we need an initial set of guidelines to work effectively as a team.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >thanks for your +1, thats the first of the existing team, I still hope
>>> the
>>> >rest of the team will join. The intention of the proposal is NOT to
>>> exclude
>>> >anybody, it (as andrea write very nicely) to make a basis on which we can
>>> >build, while securing our servers.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  I suggest myself for sysadm, and jsc, pescetti, arist and imacat for
>>> >>> vm-team. Of course my suggestion depends on the willingness of the
>>> >>> mentioned people.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm willing to be part of team as proposed.
>>> >
>>> >thx, your input and help is much valued.
>>> >
>>> >Remember there are 3 days left of this year, if you have something to
>>> catch
>>> >up on.
>>> >
>>> >rgds
>>> >jan I.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>   Andrea.
>>> >>
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>>>
>>
>>

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