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From J├╝rgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?
Date Mon, 10 Mar 2014 07:32:07 GMT
On 3/9/14 8:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 03/09/2014 07:33 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>
>>>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/
>>>>>>>> Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread email?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care to be
>>>> careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately.
>>>>
>>>> We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads. They
>>>> link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just
>>>> thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side) to deny
>>>> all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.org or the
>>>> sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be in
>>>> control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.
>>>>
>>>
>> I'm a bit confused by this statement. There are MANY sites the
>> re-route to
>> SourceForge for our downloads, and this is perfectly fine. The concern is
>> for the  inadvertent download of not yet released Beta which is available
>> from the following URL space which is not even SourceForge:
>>
>>   http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones
> 
> OK, for the Beta release in special this is true. It's not yet available
> on Sourceforge - at least I cannot see it.

it is there as well, hdu started the synch when the bits where ready on
the Apache server for some further testing purposes (especially upload
performance). And of course to have them in place in time for today.

It was probably a little bit early but independent where we upload the
bits they will be grabbed immediately. Which is not necessarily bad if
they would do their job a little bit better ;-) There was no official
release announcement.

Juergen


> 
> In general, they link to our binaries at Sourceforge.
> 
>> Correct? So, I think the restriction would need to be from ci.apache.org,
>> not SourceForge.
> 
> For the Beta release this is true.
> 
> However, I don't know how long this makes sense.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> For me this sounds like a great idea.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some from
>>> these bad websites.
>>>
>>> @Roberto:
>>> Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for you?
>>>
>>>   Sure, sites could still copy all binaries being voted upon and offer
>>>> them locally, but this would require a more significant effort. on
>>>> their
>>>> side.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And more HDD space and more own bandwith - which is also not what they
>>> want.
>>>
>>> Marcus
> 
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