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From J├╝rgen Lange ...@juergen-lange.de>
Subject Re: Anything we can do about premature redistribution?
Date Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:21:25 GMT
+1 I like this way

Am 31.03.2014 22:48, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:
>> Am 03/29/2014 09:36 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>>
>>> 2014-03-28 21:24 GMT+01:00 Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>:
>>>
>>>> Am 03/13/2014 10:01 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>
>>>>> Am 03/09/2014 06:08 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 03/08/2014 12:09 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Office/Office-Suites/
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache-OpenOffice-253.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    Or maybe a disclaimer in the voting thread
email?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew's comments show clearly that these editors do not care
to be
>>>>>>> careful or factual, or even read those disclaimers, unfortunately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can be successful only if we manage to block their downloads.
They
>>>>>>> link to our binaries hosted on SourceForge (which is fine). Just
>>>>>>> thinking loud, but if it was possible (on the Sourceforge side)
to
>>>>>>> deny
>>>>>>> all download requests that do not come from the openoffice.org
or the
>>>>>>> sourceforge.net domains, then the project would effectively be
in
>>>>>>> control. The embargo could be lifted just after the release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me this sounds like a great idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we should start with denying all download requests that some
from
>>>>>> these bad websites.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Roberto:
>>>>>> Can you tell us if this possible? If yes, is it much effort for you?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Do you see a chance to get this implemented? I think it could help to
>>>>> stop some bad websites to do bad things with our software.
>>>>>
>>>> @Roberto:
>>>> Maybe you haven't seen this up to now.
>>>>
>>> Thanks for heads up Marcus, sorry for not having noticed this thread
>>> before.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> It would be great if you can tell us if it's possible to exclude some
>>>> domains / IP addresses from downloading our software?
>>>>
>>> I need the domain list and I'll check out with our SiteOps if that's
>>> doable. Feel free to send me a list with a direct message.
>>
>> - chip.de
>> - computerbase.de
>> - softpedia.com
>>
>> This would be the domains from this thread that could be blocked from
>> downloading from Sourceforge. Obviously needs to be extended in the future.
>> Remember, the next will happen with the AOO 4.1.0 RC. ;-)
>>
>> *Of course*, this is just for the time frame as long as the new version is
>> not officially announced. As soon as the release is public, the block will
>> be removed.
>>
>> @all:
>> I think this could help to limit the downloadability like we want to see
>> until the official release. What you think?
>>
> I don't know.  Won't this just cause confusion?  They point to the
> files, go to test them, see the links don't work, and then get weird
> errors and spend an hour trying to debug it.  We don't want to
> needlessly annoy them, since their only fault is enthusiasm.   Is
> there a way we can give a useful error message in this case like,
> "This version of Apache OpenOffice has not yet been officially
> released.  Links to these files are disallowed until the release is
> officially approved"  or something like that?
>
> -Rob
>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Then we can exclude requester that we don't want (e.g., malware
>>>> "distributors").
>>>>
>>>> Also in time frames with Beta or RC releases it can help us to steer who
>>>> is able and when it is possible to download OpenOffice like we want to
>>>> see
>>>> until the real release date is reached.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Sure, sites could still copy all binaries being voted upon and offer
>>>>>>> them locally, but this would require a more significant effort.
on
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And more HDD space and more own bandwith - which is also not what
they
>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>
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