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From Ariel Constenla-Haile <arie...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [discussion] how to stop mails being sent to multiple lists.
Date Fri, 15 Aug 2014 07:57:22 GMT
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 04:50:02PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 14/08/14 15:59, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 14/08/14 14:02, jan i wrote:
> >>> hi.
> >>>
> >>> Have you also noticed that the amount of AOO mails have exploded
> >>> lately....sounds good you think lots of activity
> >>>
> >>> SADLY the truth is different, we have a fair amoun of real mails, but
> >>> something like 8 of 10 are sent to multiple ML.
> >>>
> >>> It is unwise to send the same mail to multiple lists, for a couple of
> >>> reasons:
> >>> - the discussion becomes scattered over multiple ML
> >>> - you force your fellow community members to read the same mail several
> >>> times
> >>> - you waste our bandwith

I find more annoying (and for sure they waste more bandwith) mails that
reply to a single paragraph but don't clean the message from all the
quoted text, like this one I'm sending on purpose (I didn't even remove
the mailing list footer texts).

For the annoying duplication in your mailboxes, there are solutions for
the problem depending on the software you use; dovecot, for example, has
a Sieve extension vnd.dovecot.duplicate
http://hg.rename-it.nl/dovecot-2.1-pigeonhole/raw-file/tip/doc/rfc/spec-bosch-sieve-duplicate.txt
that can solve it with one line (if duplicate { setflag "\\seen"; }).

The main problem with mailing list is not the concept in itself, but the
lack of knowledge of the proper tools.

> >>> If most mails are copied to most ML....then why do we have so many ML, one
> >>> solution could be to only have dev@ and let the others be an alias
> >>> (absolutely not one I prefer).
> >>>
> >>> How can we stop this tendency to blow up our inboxes ?
> >>
> >> We don't do that normally but for example my mails regarding the
> >> availability of the RC builds are important for at least 3 lists. And I
> >> know that not all people are subscribed or reading dev. But I know that
> >> people read (are subscribed) to QA and l10n. So how can I reach all
> >> interested parties? For me it's simple I send an email to all lists. The
> >> people who are subscribed to all lists potentially found this annoying
> >> but for me it is more important to reach all.
> >>
> >> If you have a good idea how to solve this, I am interested to learn.
> >>
> > 
> > Sometimes I will send to one list and cc the others (bcc will look
> > spammy to some tools), and then put in the first line of the body:
> > "Responses to Foo list only".
> 
> I did this as well several times but even this got ignored and
> discussion were on more than one list. So I gave up this approach.
> 
> Juergen
> 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > -Rob
> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
> >>
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-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

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