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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Ongoing OOXML development and "implementation defined" items.
Date Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:00:11 GMT
Hi.

Thanks to a (once again) good tip from andre, I found out why I could not
see the OOXML sources and control the code.

Be carefull when you upgrade svn client to newest, I had to do a fallback
before "svn up" would work correctly.

rgds
jan I.



On 4 August 2014 21:49, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:

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> On 4 August 2014 18:23, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Jan asks good questions below.
>>
>> I have a comment with regard to (3) "Will the OOXML implementation allow
>> round-trip of our documents without loss of information?"
>>
>> It strikes me that there are OOXML import and export capabilities already
>> in Apache OpenOffice and a better question may have to do with whether
>> those capabilities will satisfy condition (3) and how can they be improved
>> to do so.
>>
>> I am assuming that Jan is considering more than AOO round-tripping with
>> itself, although it would be strange were that not already true.  The trick
>> is round-tripping with other implementations of OOXML, perhaps, including
>> the OOXML support of the AOO cousin, LibreOffice?
>>
>> Sadly enough round-trip within AOO is not at all given, but you are right
> I was thinking about the AOO specialities in e.g. Microsoft word (it could
> also be that the new development simply ignores these fields)
>
>
>> I note that the current support is not being mentioned in this discussion
>> so far.  I think it may be that is related to the focus on implementations
>> for mobile devices and other non-desktop solutions.  It's not clear though.
>>
> Or because the import function for OOXML does not work for a large amount
> of documents.
>
> thanks for clarifying my questions:
> rgds
> Jan I.
>
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>>
>>  -- Dennis E. Hamilton
>>     dennis.hamilton@acm.org    +1-206-779-9430
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
>> Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 08:42
>> To: dev
>> Subject: Ongoing OOXML development and "implementation defined" items.
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Based on the information from dennis/peter, I think it would be highly
>> interesting to know:
>>
>> 1) How are the "implementation defined" items implemented, is the
>> intention
>> to forward a list to dev@ and ask for opinions (of course in a style so
>> an
>> opinion is possible to give) ?
>>
>> 2) How will the "implementation defined" items, be documented, they are
>> likely to change over time, to its problaly a poing where maintenance is
>> needed, and thus a higher demand on documentation ?
>>
>> 3) Will the OOXML implementation allow round-trip of our documents without
>> loss of information ?
>>
>>
>> unlike the sidebar development, this develoment seems closed, I expect
>> there are good reasons for it, but items where many can have an opinion
>> (format conversion being a typical example) would be nice to discuss.
>>
>> thanks in advance.
>> rgds
>> jan I
>>
>>
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