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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation
Date Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:44:49 GMT
On 16 August 2014 18:38, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:

> I don't have any skin in this game.
>
> Yet I am baffled about where this work is going on and what Apache Project
> it relates to.  Is there an incubator proposal for Apache DocFormats on its
> way?
>
Yes there is a proposal on its way, look at general-incubator approx. the
last 3 days. Right now it is not decided who should sponsor this project.


>
> In particular, I would expect that some thought would be given to the ODF
> Toolkit and that incubator project, <
> http://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/>.
>
> Also, Apache POI would seem to have some relevance, especially the
> OpenXML4J component, <http://poi.apache.org/>.
>
The intention is clearly to at least have a close cooperation with these
projects. But docFormats aims at a bit more (like e.g. being openoffice on
tablets).

I am right now working on student proposal, to get a compliance sheet made
for products that offer OXML and/or odf. MAybe that would be something you
would want to help out with.


> These are all Java based, as is Armin's current project in the AOO
> repository.  I haven't listed open-source projects outside the embrace of
> ASF.
>
> A single <orcnote> remark is in-line below (although this notation may
> derail defective HTML presentation of plaintext containing angle brackets).
>
> Re-subscribing to general-incubator now ...
>
> Oh, and congratulations on joining the IPMC, Jan.
>
thanks a lot.

rgds
jan i

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 01:10
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation
>
> On 16 August 2014 03:50, Peter Kelly <kellypmk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
> > Now, onto the fix:
> >
> > The library needs to have some way of checking that the HTML file being
> > used as part of an update operation has a mapping (id attributes) that
> > match the docx file being updated (in the case of creating a new file,
> this
> > is just an empty docx file). In the even that this is not the case, it
> > could still do the update, but would act as if the entire document had
> been
> > replaced with a completely new one.
> >
> > The solution I'll likely implement (and this should really be my first
> > task, given the potential for problems like the above is this):
> >
> In my humble opinion you should not use time on this right now.
>
> If you fix a bug we have a 1-1 relation (1 man used, 1 bug fixed)
> If you start getting the documentation right we have a 1-n relations (1 man
> used, n men help fix bugs).
>
> Please have in mind, we build a community in order to move away from "I
> have to do it, because I am the only one who know how" and you are the most
> important enabler of that......we need your knowledge in a file, so that
> others can work.
>
> [ ... ]
>
> When the project (hopefully) enters incubator, we will automatically have
> access to a bug tracking system (jira), and with that hopefully only being
> some month away I would not recommend setting up one now.
>
> <orcnote>
>    On Github, there is already an issues structure,
>    <https://github.com/uxproductivity/DocFormats/issues>.
>    I think this should be continued in use until a different
>    setup arrives "any day soon".  Note that some Github projects
>    create a single subrepository that is just for its issues
>    function.  E.g., https://github.com/keybase/keybase-issues
> </orcnote>
>
>
> [ ... ]
>
>
>

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