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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
Date Fri, 02 Jan 2015 15:11:58 GMT
On 2 January 2015 at 15:37, Michal Hriň <hrin@apache.org> wrote:

> Dňa 01.01.2015 o 23:16 jan i napísal(a):
>
>  On 1 January 2015 at 22:57, Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>  As I wrote yesterday, it's time to start looking for a new PMC Chair that
>>> can replace me (only for these specific duties; I'll of course continue
>>> with all my other activities, that are the vast majority) when
>>> applicable.
>>> We are not in a hurry as I will take care of the January Board report,
>>> but
>>> it's good to start moving.
>>>
>>> Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or
>>> self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with
>>> nominations.
>>>
>>> My duties as a Chair cover only a minimal part of my activity in
>>> OpenOffice, so it's good that I point out what is expected of a Chair:
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>>>
>>> 1) The Chair is the interface between the Project Management Committee
>>> and
>>> the Apache Board. The Chair takes responsibilities for the quarterly
>>> report
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Board+Reports
>>>
>>> 2) The chair is a facilitator and their role within the PMC is to ensure
>>> that everyone has a chance to be heard and to enable meetings to flow
>>> smoothly. There is no concept of "leader" in the Apache way.
>>>
>>> 3) After the project has elected new committers or PMC members, the Chair
>>> is responsible for the needed updates to the Apache LDAP groups.
>>>
>>>
>> You describe very correctly the duties of a chair, seen from our bylaws.
>> But apart from that, there seems be an unwritten rule.... the chair is
>> normally also quite active..
>>
>> In the bigger part of ASF projects, the PMC is active together with the
>> chair, in that case chair function is purely administrative.
>>
>> You can find some project where the chair is active, but the rest of the
>> PMC is only limited active, in that case the chair should be active in
>> reactivating the PMC.
>>
>> I have yet to find a project where the chair is inactive while the PMC is
>> active.
>>
>> Bear in mind I dont speak of the chair as a role (which you have already
>> correctly described), but the person behind the role. That person, should
>> always have a finger on the pulse of  the community, be prepared to help
>> solve conflicts....of course if the PMC group is active, this is not a
>> problem.....and most importantly that person should having the backing of
>> the PMC group.
>>
>>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>
>>
> OK, we know what are duties of PMC Chair.
> Both of you didn't get out a names of candidates. Probably, I know your
> view, but please, put it here.
>
@Michael, I did not put any names here, because I do not have any names, I
resigned from the PMC in 2014 mainly because felt a strong disagreement
with the rest of the PMC, about where we are, and how we give the project
more momentum.


> So here I chose some people, to make this election easier.
>
> Rob Weir
> Marcus Lange
> Key Schenk


> This are I thing object reasons, looking on activity on mailing lists (dev
> && l10n && commits) for last year and for a time after last release.
>
> This is not my finite vote. I will wait for others nominations.
>
Voting comes after end of nominations.


>
> And don't to forget, named people, express your opinion here, if you want,
> are willing and able to do this.
>
+1.

rgds
jan i

>
> Regards,
> Michal Hriň
>
>
>
>
>>> So please go on with your nominations. We don't have strict rules about
>>> eligibility. As I verified, nominees needn't be PMC members, since they
>>> can
>>> be admitted to the PMC as part of their election. They needn't be
>>> OpenOffice committers either, but in practice the new Chair needs to
>>> have a
>>> good knowledge of the project, so I see it reasonable (but again, not
>>> mandatory) that the new Chair is chosen among the OpenOffice committers:
>>> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#openoffice
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>    Andrea.
>>>
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