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From jan i <>
Subject Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair
Date Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:20:29 GMT
On 13 January 2015 at 00:03, Louis Suárez-Potts <> wrote:

> > On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:00, Marcus <> wrote:
> >
> > Am 01/12/2015 11:22 PM, schrieb Louis Suárez-Potts:
> >>
> >>> On 12 Jan 2015, at 17:02, Dave Fisher<>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Asking inactive PMC to go emeritus can be done in any case. The merit
> does not expire and if willing to be active one can be restored.
> >>
> >> Right. I was going over the PMC list (
> and
> then relating those listed to participation (however defined) in the
> project. I’m terrible at engaging actively in the lists but equally
> terrible at boring people at every possible opportunity about the plusses
> and minuses of OpenOffice and the ODF, and now Corinthia (endless fun). So
> I give everyone lots of benefit of a doubt, if I missed their engagement.
> But I was curious why some members have dropped off—or slowed their
> engagement. A fair question, no?
> >
> > sure, but please let us separate both things. Changing the list of PMC
> members is different from voting for a new chair.
> Indeed. I think that one can only make changes to the PMC roster *after*
> an election for the chair of the current PMC :-)
Agreed but remark the difference between Louis and my world,
"benefit of doubt" expired long time ago. I would have a simple ruleset:
any PMC who have not been been on dev@ or private@ for 3 month and
- who do not react to a personal mail requestion a confirmation on private
- who do not participate in the vote (implicit a function of the first rule)
would be asked to asked to leave, and if no reaction, ask the board for an
ACK to remove such people.

Please also remark the difference in opinion about what chair is. I do not
see a chair as a figure of anything, a chair is a PMC like all other PMC
members. But I do accept the fact that the world as such do not always
understand "the apache way" and to some the chair is more important. Since
I am not into marketing (where the title chair matters) I have no need to
be chair.

Remark, whoever ends up getting elected (maybe we should really open up for
new nominations), I will continue to work as usual.

jan i.

> >
> > Marcus
> Cheers,
> louis
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