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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Date Wed, 09 Sep 2015 13:06:52 GMT
Thanks, Andrea

<orcnote>s in-line.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Pescetti [] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 00:25

On 09/09/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> the only nominee to step forward had been on the PMC six months

I don't see this as a major issue. I mean, it was the third Chair 
election of the year (and it was still August), it came unexpected and 
we had seen painful nomination/acceptance/declination stories in the 
previous months;  I believe this is the reason why people, knowing that 
you were already available, did not jump in and nominate themselves.

   Until I suddenly had the job did I appreciate how much my shallow
   experience on the PMC was not enough and I am having to be a very
   quick learner.  If I had not been a regular reader/participant on
   general-incubator, dev-community, and legal-discuss I would have
   been even more unprepared (though unlikely to have stood up in that
   case).  It helps that I have the personal time to dig into matters.
      It is fortunate that I have some experience from outside of the
   ASF and non-open-source work.  Although the ASF way is unique, 
   I resonate with it.

> That Chair-elect will retire in September, 2016.

OK, this is very useful for proper planning.

>    2015-08-23 Jan Iverson retired

   Yes, thank you.  I trust that I am getting better.  

> The complete PMC membership history is available at

This is an excellent document. I've checked it and indeed this one is 
much better and (as soon as you have the privileges for doing so, which 
should be a matter of days now, Board Meeting is next week) 
should definitely be aligned to it. Your file has better information.

> Collect and maintain materials on everything that involves a Chair

There is nothing special for OpenOffice in this respect. So adding 
questions/answers to will suffice 
(but that page is already very comprehensive).

   I am thinking about all the matters that are known tacitly but not
   necessarily to a newcomer.  There is also a small matter of 
   prerequisite knowledge, such as 
     slogin to and running
     $ openoffice --rm=whoseit
   to a duffer such as myself.

> September 2016 PMC have at least three able and available candidates for recommendation
as new Chair

As for having 3 people who would have the minimal knowledge to act as 
Chair, I think we already have them, and PMC involvement in Chair duties 
will be enough. I don't see the need to have 3 or more candidates (i.e., 
it is important to have people with the right knowledge, it is not 
important that all of them run for election): it might happen that, 
implicitly or explicitly, the viable candidates find consensus on one of 

   I agree completely, although capacity and willingness matter too.  
      My benchmark is how the Incubator PMC last changed 
   Chairs.  As far as I can tell they have a deep bench,
   and with a short discussion among the willing on the general list,
   there was consensus and, so far as I know, a [VOTE] was not needed.
   It that is achieved in 2016, I'll declare victory [;<).


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