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From Roberto Galoppini <>
Subject Re: FW: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015
Date Fri, 04 Sep 2015 11:42:55 GMT
2015-09-04 0:14 GMT+02:00 Dennis E. Hamilton <>:

> More information about the Plugfest for some who might not have noticed
> earlier.
> I have edited this lightly to reflect the current status in my case.
> - Dennis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton []
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 15:31
> To:
> Subject: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015 (was RE: [NOMINATION]
> Dennis Hamilton ... )
> Roberto mentions the forthcoming ODF Plugfest to be held September 15-16
> at the Hague.
> Information about the Plugfest is on this Wiki page:
> <
> >.
> To see how these have operated, it is useful to look at the programs of
> prior plugfests starting with the two in 2009 (although some of the
> historical material seems to consist of placeholders).
> I have not been to any of these except vicariously as a member of the
> OASIS ODF Interoperability and Conformance (OIC) Technical Committee and as
> a participant in some of the planning.
> I see three matters that are useful to be present for.  Anyone could
> attend to participate as a contributor to Apache OpenOffice in those events:
>  1. The presentations on ODF adoption and also on developments of the ODF
> specifications
>  2. The subsequent presentations on implementation efforts, where 8 are
> listed so far, including Apache OpenOffice.
>  3. The Interop testing that occupies the remainder of the first day and
> all of the second day.  For this, it is desirable to show up with
> demonstration and test documents to interchanges and then inspect
> implementations.  This activity tends to be conducted in confidence,
> regrettably.  There is a sample scenario template to use in presenting
> tests.
> For AOO, it would be good to have some simple presentation of status for
> (2) and to have some contributions (3) of tests or exemplary documents for
> which interoperability is a concern.
> Roberto has been on the calls for organization of the Plugtest and it is
> valuable that he is doing so.  His keeping us apprised of what AOO might do
> to contribute and to participate will be very helpful.
> I think if we create a portfolio of tests and a few slides on the status
> of AOO by mid-September, anyone could be present as an AOO participant.
> The Plugfests are obviously more amenable to participation by ODF experts
> and implementers that are based in Europe and we have able members of the
> AOO community there.
> I have always wanted to go to a Plugfest and never managed to arrange it.
> I think we have many able spokespersons.
> I do not have the means to travel to The Netherlands for this event.  I am
> willing to go, although it would be valuable to at least have someone more
> technically involved around interoperability testing.  I don't think it is
> necessary to have someone be an official of some form, whether PMC member
> or a Chair
> [Note: I learned that, in addition to not having the means, I have a
> conflict. ]
> Here at dev@ we can work up a status report that anyone could deliver and
> also development of any contributions to the interoperability testing that
> would be useful for cross-implementation demonstration/confirmation in
> those sessions.
> I am happy to cooperate in any way I can in the development of such
> materials.  I trust Roberto will continue to participate on the calls
> (since they tend to be at 6am in my local time).

I will surely do if any will be set, but I guess for this ODF-Plugfest
we're done. If someone - not me, as per my message on another thread I
can't commit to this now - is willing to go, we better give heads up to the
organizers so that a talk of us can be added to the agenda.


> [Note: That was in July.  This is September already and my ability to
> assist here is severely limited, although I will do what I can.]
>  - Dennis
> [ ... ]
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