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From Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia
Date Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:07:49 GMT
Fair enough.   That is the dictionary definition.  I was thinking of how
it's used colloquially, which seems
to be more like a synonym for "stagnant."   I'd be OK with either
"stagnant" or "stalled", if the change
can be made without someone immediately reverting it.   I probably won't do
it myself since I quickly tire
of dicking around with wikipedia edit wars, but I fully support anybody who
does.


Phil


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On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Donald Whytock <dwhytock@apache.org> wrote:

> "Moribund" means "dying".  It's a goofy word, yes, which means it's an
> attention-getting word, which means people will look at it and say, "What
> the hell does THAT mean?" and focus on why someone would call AOO that.
>
> Is "dying" more accurate than "dormant" to describe AOO?  "Dying" suggests
> the project is in decline and will only continue to decline.  Does anyone
> here think "dying" is more accurate than, say, "Stalled"?
>
> Don
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue.fan@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > "Moribund" is a goofy word that almost nobody uses in conversation, but
> > it's probably more accurate than "dormant".   I've spent enough time
> > goofing around on Wikipedia lately, so, for myself, I'm quite happy to
> > leave it as is, until the 4.1.2 release comes out.  At that point, I
> think
> > it's clear that it should then be made "Active".
> >
> > *shrug*
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
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> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Donald Whytock <dwhytock@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There was a minor skirmish last week over it.  Looks like there'll be
> one
> > > this week too...someone changed it to "moribund".
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Phillip Rhodes <
> > motley.crue.fan@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry, I missed the infobox when I looked at the page.  You're right,
> > > > having "Dormant" there is flat out wrong and very misleading.
> > > >
> > > > I changed it to "Active" just now and added a ref pointer to the
> 4.1.2
> > > > release schedule that Andrea just provided.  I just hope there aren't
> > > > certain parties with a vested interest in denigrating AOO sitting
> > around
> > > > planning to start a revert war over this.   :-(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Max Merbald <max.merbald@gmx.de>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Phil,
> > > > >
> > > > > what I meant was the infobox at the top right. In that box it says
> > that
> > > > > AOO is dormat, which is not correct and which is not in the
> > citations.
> > > > The
> > > > > presence of a citation does not necessry mean that the claimed info
> > is
> > > in
> > > > > the citation. If people read on the Wikipedia that AOO is "dormant"
> > > > they'll
> > > > > start looking for different office software.
> > > > >
> > > > > Max
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 03.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Phillip Rhodes:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's
> -
> > > > >> strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations.  IOW, I
don't
> > see
> > > > any
> > > > >> supportable rationale for removing anything that's there, although
> > one
> > > > >> could question the motives of whoever made it a point to call
out
> > some
> > > > >> concerns about lack of activity in the first paragaph of the
> > article.
> > > > >> Nonetheless, I think any attempt to modify that will face
> > opposition.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In a related vein, The Guardian recently ran this article titled
> > > > "Should I
> > > > >> Switch From Apache OpenOffice to LibreOffice or Microsoft Office".
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I don't know if there's any easy way to counter this narrative
> > that's
> > > > >> spreading through the press, about AOO being
> dead/dormant/whatever,
> > or
> > > > how
> > > > >> LO is clearly "the winner", but it's definitely unfortunate to
see
> > > this
> > > > >> kind of stuff spread around so widely.  :-(
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Phil
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <
> > luispo@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi Max,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 03 Sep 15, at 16:31, Max Merbald <max.merbald@gmx.de>
wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Hi there,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant. I can't
see
> where
> > > > they
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>> have the information from. The sources they use don't say
so. I
> > think
> > > > >>> it's
> > > > >>> definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think no more is
done
> > about
> > > > it.
> > > > >>> The problem is also that LibreOffice has just published its
> version
> > > 5.0
> > > > >>> and
> > > > >>> is getting ahead of us.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> thanks for the alert.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Wikipedia is composed by a crowd of editors, and you can
change
> the
> > > > entry
> > > > >>> to reflect the facts.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> So can anyone on this list. Becoming an editor at Wikipedia
is
> not
> > > > >>> arduous.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Louis
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Max
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
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