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From Rob Weir <...@robweir.com>
Subject Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia
Date Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:56:09 GMT
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 4:52 PM, John D'Orazio
<john.dorazio@cappellaniauniroma3.org> wrote:
> Interestingly mr. David Gerard IS a moderator on Wikipedia it seems. He
> still has to abide by the rules though. And there is quite a bit of
> discussion on the talk page, where some users have opted to split the
> "Apache OpenOffice" project onto its own page as a completely separate
> derivative project. All that is needed is to chime in on the article talk
> page citing references to legal info about OpenOffice.org being officially
> in the hands of the Apache Software Foundation. If there is evidence of
> that (which seems obvious to me, I'm a newcomer but I go to the webpage and
> I see Apache OpenOffice on the OpenOffice.org webpage), it just needs to be
> cited on the talk page to back any kind of edits to the article that
> reflect that. Seems that the article has already been split and "Apache
> OpenOffice" has it's own wikipedia article (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice), I wouldn't make a big
> deal about having a separate article but I would oppose the POV opinions
> about Apache not having legal rights to the OpenOffice.org project (hence
> the corrections to the infobox information).
> I don't know all of the technicalities, so the edits I just made might not
> be precise, for example which release was the first release to have the
> Apache license?
>

Is this the same David Gerard discussed here?

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/David_Gerard



> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 09/14/2015 11:44 AM, John D'Orazio wrote:
>> > I'll try to change it too. If someone on wikipedia reverts an edit up to
>> > three times without founded reason, they can be blocked by a wikipedia
>> > moderator. So they won't be able to continue reverting forever...
>>
>> Well this is interesting information. I was wondering if there might be
>> editing wars forever! :)
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Matthias Seidel <
>> matthias.seidel@hamburg.de
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> https://twitter.com/davidgerard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am 14.09.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Max Merbald:
>> >>
>> >>> I changed it back. Who is this David Gerard person who obviously wants
>> >>> to damage OpenOffice?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Am 14.09.2015 um 16:48 schrieb Donald Whytock:
>> >>>
>> >>>> There was a minor skirmish last week over it.  Looks like there'll
be
>> one
>> >>>> this week too...someone changed it to "moribund".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Phillip Rhodes
>> >>>> <motley.crue.fan@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sorry, I missed the infobox when I looked at the page.  You're right,
>> >>>>> having "Dormant" there is flat out wrong and very misleading.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I changed it to "Active" just now and added a ref pointer to
the
>> 4.1.2
>> >>>>> release schedule that Andrea just provided.  I just hope there
aren't
>> >>>>> certain parties with a vested interest in denigrating AOO sitting
>> around
>> >>>>> planning to start a revert war over this.   :-(
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Phil
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Max Merbald <max.merbald@gmx.de>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Phil,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> what I meant was the infobox at the top right. In that box
it says
>> that
>> >>>>>> AOO is dormat, which is not correct and which is not in
the
>> citations.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> The
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> presence of a citation does not necessry mean that the claimed
info
>> >>>>>> is in
>> >>>>>> the citation. If people read on the Wikipedia that AOO is
"dormant"
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> they'll
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> start looking for different office software.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Max
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Am 03.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Phillip Rhodes:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything
that's -
>> >>>>>>> strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations.
 IOW, I don't
>> see
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> any
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> supportable rationale for removing anything that's there,
although
>> one
>> >>>>>>> could question the motives of whoever made it a point
to call out
>> some
>> >>>>>>> concerns about lack of activity in the first paragaph
of the
>> article.
>> >>>>>>> Nonetheless, I think any attempt to modify that will
face
>> opposition.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In a related vein, The Guardian recently ran this article
titled
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> "Should I
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Switch From Apache OpenOffice to LibreOffice or Microsoft
Office".
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I don't know if there's any easy way to counter this narrative
that's
>> >>>>>>> spreading through the press, about AOO being
>> dead/dormant/whatever, or
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> how
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> LO is clearly "the winner", but it's definitely unfortunate
to see
>> >>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>> kind of stuff spread around so widely.  :-(
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Phil
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts
<
>> luispo@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi Max,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 03 Sep 15, at 16:31, Max Merbald <max.merbald@gmx.de>
wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant.
I can't see
>> where
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> they
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> have the information from. The sources they use don't say
so. I
>> think
>> >>>>>>>> it's
>> >>>>>>>> definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think
no more is done
>> about
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> it.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> The problem is also that LibreOffice has just published
its
>> >>>>>>>> version 5.0
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> is getting ahead of us.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> thanks for the alert.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Wikipedia is composed by a crowd of editors, and
you can change
>> the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> entry
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> to reflect the facts.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> So can anyone on this list. Becoming an editor at
Wikipedia is not
>> >>>>>>>> arduous.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Louis
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Max
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
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