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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] Removing all tracking from AOO sites
Date Sun, 15 May 2016 22:31:44 GMT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.schenk@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 14:34
> To: OOo Apache <dev@openoffice.apache.org>; Dennis Hamilton
> <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing all tracking from AOO sites
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
> <dennis.hamilton@acm.org
> > wrote:
> 
> > There are web pages delivered by Apache OpenOffice properties that,
> when
> > browsed, signal their access to tracking sites that collect statistics
> > about site usage.  This is done by fetching scripts and/or images from
> the
> > sites that provide the statistics.
> >
> > This is a form of tracking that is carried out by services not under
> > control of the Apache OpenOffice project.
> >
> > The effort to track usage also causes "insecure content" warnings in
> > browsers, depending on the security options the user has set for their
> > browser and the web address being used.
> >
> > PROPOSAL
> >
> > Remove all tracking elements from AOO-authored and published web
> pages.
> >
> > This eliminates an under-used arrangement and also removes the
> uncertainty
> > that is raised when visitors are warned that there is insecure content
> > associated with the web page they are viewing.
> >
> > This proposal is offered for lazy consensus no earlier than
> > 2016-05-23T23:00Z.
> >
> > BACKGROUND
[ ... ]
> >
> > These images, and also some scripts, are used for gathering access and
> > usage statistics from various services.
> >
> > Since we are not routinely making the available statistics public,
> this is
> > one of those we-collect-it-because-we-can and not because-we-need-it.
> > There is, as far as can be determined on these lists, no active use of
> the
> > information that is collected.
[ ... ]
> >
> ​I took a quick look at this issue. Just for clarification, this seems to
> ONLY be an issue with accessing certain elements from 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/
> ​, correct?​ If this is the case, I am requesting  that you change the
> subject of this message so it is restricted ONLY to
> forum.openoffice.org.
> 
> I got very concerned by the stated subject because we use Google
> Analytics
> extensively -- it's part of every single page on
> http://www.openoffice.org/
> -- and of course, this IS a tracking mechanism.
> 
> I understand the problems this is causing but in this case, I think we
> need
> to be a more specific.
[orcmid] 

I was aware of that.

However, unless we are making visible and public use of Google analytics, I don't believe
we should be doing it.  

The proposal to drop all tracking is because there apparently is no use of it and no accounting
for it.

If I am mistaken about that, it would be useful to know how to access the analysis and how
to make that available to anyone.

- Dennis
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> 
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> 
> --
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> MzK
> 
> "Time spent with cats is never wasted."
>                                 -- Sigmund Freud


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