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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows
Date Sat, 13 Aug 2016 23:07:00 GMT
Thanks for the checking, Marcus.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.mail@wtnet.de]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 13:20
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: qa@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows
> 
> Am 08/12/2016 06:07 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
> > BETA 0.1.0 WITH AUTOMATED SCRIPTS IS NOW AVAILABLE
> >
> > The scripts make life much easier, since users don't have to go
> hunting for anything and digging around in operating-system locations.
> >
> > You should be able to go through the procedure that uses the automated
> steps pretty easily.
> >
> > It is very important to know the difficulties that arise or whether
> there were none.
> >
> > The material is available at
> > <http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-
> patch1/binaries/Windows>.
> 
> great to have now a script-based installation. Here is my test procedure
> on Windows 10 Home:
> 
> APPLY script:
> 
> - When starting the script I get a "... Windows SmartScreen has
> prevented the start of a not recognized app. To run this App,
> Administrator permission is needed ..." message. Doing so, it started
> but showed a message [1] that Administrator permission is needed. I've
> verified that nothing was done or changed.
> 
> - When starting with right-clicked "Run as Administrator" the script
> showed some useful information [1], renamed the old file and copied the
> new file.
> 
> REVERT script:
> 
> - When starting the script I get a "... Windows SmartScreen has
> prevented the start of a not recognized app. To run this App,
> Administrator permission is needed ..." message. Doing so, it started
> but showed a message [1] that Administrator permission is needed. I've
> verified that nothing was done or changed.
> 
> - When starting with right-clicked "Run as Administrator" the script
> showed some useful information [1], deleted the new file and renamed the
> old file back to the old name.
> 
> At the end both scripts are working successfully.
> 
> [1] The command line window where the output information is shown uses a
> *very little* font size (looked like 4pt or similar) and is therefore
> nearyl unreadable. I had to increase the font size in the properties of
> the window (click on the icon in the top left corner).
[orcmid] 

The font size is not under control of the script.  I have no idea what has it be so small
in your case.  Changing it should be persistent now.
> 
> PS:
> However, I've a point that could be improved.
> 
> The name of the script files are very long. Same for the Readme. Inside
> the zip'ed file there is no need to repeat the complete patch name
> structure. IMHO they're better recognizable when it's just an
> "Apply.bat", "Revert.bat" and "Readme_Win.txt".
[orcmid] 

Well, yes, especially the Readme.  At this late point, I'd like to get to 1.0.0 without risking
any regression in the text.  I don't like these things becoming mysteries if separated from
the packages.

I will give it serious consideration.

> 
> 
> 
> Thanks a lot for providing the script files. This will be a great help
> for the normal users.
> 
> If you need more details or tests just tell me.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 18:01
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Cc: qa@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows
> >>
> >> Beta version 0.1.0 is now nearing completion.
> >>
> >> It will include two scripts, one for applying the patch, the other
> for
> >> reverting the patch.
> >>
> >> The .zip will also have a copy of the original 4.1.2 tl.dll as well
> as
> >> the new one.  These are used in the procedures to verify the files
> that
> >> are present in the OpenOffice configuration in order to apply the
> patch
> >> and also to remove it.
> >>
> >> Next steps:
> >>   * Additional path testing of the two scripts and verification that
> >> operation on Windows XP and on Windows 10 work as expected.
> > [orcmid]
> >
> > Done
> >
> > It is also much easier to work through the patch checks using the
> scripts.
> >>
> >>   * Updating of the README to reflect the availability of the batch-
> file
> >> scripts as well as the manual procedure if ever needed.
> > [orcmid]
> >
> > Done
> >
> >>
> >>   * Although the Zips already carry executable code (i.e., DLLs)
> there
> >> may be some Antivirus push-back where the policy is to not allow .zip
> >> files with scripts in them.  The README will also have to address
> that
> >> possibility.
> > [orcmid]
> >
> > I forgot that at the last minute.  I will put that into the next
> version.  Meanwhile, those who check these procedures should report any
> AV objections they ran into.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>   - Dennis
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org]
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 09:58
> >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >>> Cc: qa@openoffice.apache.org
> >>> Subject: RE: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows
> >>>
> >>> Alpha version 0.0.1 of README-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Windows.txt has
> been
> >>> introduced into the files (and the .zip) at
> >>> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-
> >>> patch1/binaries/Windows>.
> >>>
> >>> This version reflects suggestions by Marcus Lange, Pedro Lino, and
> >> Keith
> >>> McKenna.  Suggestions that are not (yet) implemented will be
> discussed
> >>> in replies to their messages and on the bugzilla issue at
> >>> <https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127065>.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> By its nature, this material is intended for users operating on
> >> Windows.
> >>> In some cases, incompatible forms are used on the Subversion server
> >>> where the above files are situated.  Version 0.0.1 attempts to
> >>> accommodate for this incompatibility.  In continuing to verify the
> >>> procedure, please indicate whether there are (now) difficulties
> using
> >>> the text files, especially on Windows.
> >>>
> >>> Users of Linux systems may have difficulties with some utilities for
> >>> which the Windows versions of the same tool (e.g., md5sum) do not
> >>> produce Linux-acceptable line endings.  It is useful to know if that
> >> is
> >>> still the case.  The files have been confirmed to be usable using
> the
> >>> utilities built for use on Windows.
> >>>
> >>> For future versions, the use of HTML instead of text will be
> >> considered.
> >>> HTML does not have white-space incompatibility problems across
> >> different
> >>> platforms. The HTML will also be digitally-signed as a means of
> >>> verifying its authenticity.
> >>>
> >>> In addition to possibly using HTML as a better form for cross-
> platform
> >>> use of text, attention will now move toward introducing scripts that
> >>> automatically apply the change, replacing all of steps 9-18.
> >>>
> >>> Meanwhile, it is valuable to continue testing that the replacement
> >> file
> >>> produces no regression or introduction of any defects not seen using
> >> an
> >>> unmodified Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.
> >>>
> >>>   - Dennis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 20:31
> >>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >>>> Cc: qa@openoffice.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows
> >>>>
> >>>> Testing of an Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 procedure is
> requested.
> >>>>
> >>>> The files to be used in testing are at
> >>>> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-
> >>> patch1/binaries/Windows>.
> >>>>
> >>>> The files to be tested and reviewed are
> >>>>
> >>>>   * README-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Windows.txt
> >>>>     The description of the procedure for applying a corrected
> >>>>     library file to installed copies of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2
> >>>>     on Windows.  Read this first before deciding to download
> >>>>     the Zip file and attempting the procedure.
> >>>>
> >>>>   * apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Win_x86.zip
> >>>>     The Zip archive containing the files to be used in the
> >>>>     procedure.  There is a copy of the README within the
> >>>>     archive as well.
> >>>>
> >>>>   * apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Win_x86.zip.asc
> >>>>   * apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Win_x86.zip.md5
> >>>>   * apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Win_x86.zip.sha256
> >>>>     Files that provide a digital signature, an MD5 hash,
> >>>>     and an SHA256 hash that can be used to verify the
> >>>>     integrity of the download and, in the case of the
> >>>>     digital signature, the authenticity and accuracy of
> >>>>     the download.
> >>>>
> >>>> REQUESTED TESTING
> >>>>
> >>>>   * [OPTIONAL] If you are able to check any of the .asc,
> >>>>     .md5, and .sha256 files against the .zip, report any
> >>>>     difficulties that may have been encountered.
> >>>>
> >>>>   * If you performed the procedure, report
> >>>>      * the version of Microsoft Windows and the type of
> >>>>        account used (administrator or standard user).
> >>>>      * report whether the procedure succeeded
> >>>>      * if the procedure failed or met with difficulties,
> >>>>        please summarize the problems and how you over-
> >>>>        came any of them
> >>>>
> >>>>   * [IMPORTANT] Identify any missing, incomplete or
> >>>>     confusing information in the README.  Describe what you
> >>>>     see as important improvements before making general
> >>>>     release of the procedure for use by non-expert users of
> >>>>     Apache OpenOffice on Windows.
> >>>>
> >>>> The goal is to provide as much as we can to assist Windows users in
> >>>> applying this fix with confidence and success.  The experience of
> >>> more-
> >>>> knowledgable users who appreciate the difficulties of non-experts
> is
> >>>> important in achieving that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for any effort you invest and the feedback you provide.
> >>>>
> >>>>   - Dennis
> 
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