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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows
Date Sun, 07 Aug 2016 17:30:33 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.mail@wtnet.de]
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 09:21
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: qa@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows
> 
> Feedback for the .zip file:
> 
> Do you have a reason in mind for the "apply" in the file name? I would
> delete this as I don't see a benefit and it would shorten the file name.
[orcmid] 

I used the apply suffix to allow for there being a (semi-)automatic version that worked automatically
later.  I would then propose hotfix or something for that.  This allowed for both to exist
at some point.

I'd rather not change that now since folks know to look for it by that name, it is used in
the readme, etc.

> 
> When extracting a ZIP file I cannot stand it when no subdirectory is
> included and the files are extracted where the current directory is at
> the moment. So, I've to search for the new files.
[orcmid] 

The Extract ... tool for Windows automatically creates a folder to put everything into, although
it will be in the same folder as the .zip.  So having a folder in there simply adds an extra
level.  That is using the Windows extract. 

Other tools, such as WinZip also allow the user to choose a folder destination, although it
might take more work, and knowledgeable users of Zip tools know how to tell what to do that
works according to the README.

> 
> Therefore please include a "files" dir (or similar name) into the ZIP
> file.
[orcmid] 

The normal choice would be something like 4.1.2-patch1-apply :).
> 
> 
> 
> Feedback for the README file.
[orcmid] 

Thank you.  I will go over all of the suggestions on the README that have come in so far,
and provide an update today.


> 
> Line 25:
> It should be improve into "please consult a knowledgable person (e.g.,
> family member work colleauge, acquaintance) that is able to assist you".
> At least for me it sounds better.
> 
> Line 41.
> Put all OPTIONAL things at the section end.
> 
> Line 44/45:
> old: "... that are part of the system.installed."
> new: "... that are part of the installed system."
> 
> Line 64/65:
> One "which" is double.
> 
> Line 86-89:
> I don't know if this is necessary for this process. I think it would
> just foster help requests to the dev@ mailing list.
> 
> Line 111:
> I would write ", the .zip file is available to use.".
> 
> Line 114:
> One "or" is double.
> 
> Line 131:
> No, there is no folder extracted. Please include one (see at the top of
> this mail).
[orcmid] 

Did you not use the Windows "Extract ..." action on the context menu?

> 
> Line 147:
> IMHO this was stated already. Please don't rename the new file in the
> ZIP file. Otherwise the user has to do an additional file rename which
> should not be done.
[orcmid] 

That must be a misunderstanding.  I don't propose anything like that.

> 
> Line 153:
> The same for the ASC file.
> 
> Line 183 and 186:
> Both parts can be described together to save 1 step.
> 
> Line 208:
> This step should be avoided (see at the top of this mail).
> 
> Line 222-231:
> As stated previously (line 86-89).
> 
> Line 240:
> To give (again) the hint that OpenOffice should be closed before
> renaming the files would be nice to the user.
> 
> 
> I hope this feedback is helpful for you.
[orcmid] 

Yes, thank you.  I will look more closely when making the edits.

> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> Am 08/03/2016 05:31 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
> > Testing of an Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 procedure is requested.
> >
> > The files to be used in testing are at
> > <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-
> patch1/binaries/Windows>.
> >
> > The files to be tested and reviewed are
> >
> >   * README-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Windows.txt
> >     The description of the procedure for applying a corrected
> >     library file to installed copies of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2
> >     on Windows.  Read this first before deciding to download
> >     the Zip file and attempting the procedure.
> >
> >   * apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Win_x86.zip
> >     The Zip archive containing the files to be used in the
> >     procedure.  There is a copy of the README within the
> >     archive as well.
> >
> >   * apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Win_x86.zip.asc
> >   * apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Win_x86.zip.md5
> >   * apache-openoffice-4.1.2-patch1-apply-Win_x86.zip.sha256
> >     Files that provide a digital signature, an MD5 hash,
> >     and an SHA256 hash that can be used to verify the
> >     integrity of the download and, in the case of the
> >     digital signature, the authenticity and accuracy of
> >     the download.
> >
> > REQUESTED TESTING
> >
> >   * [OPTIONAL] If you are able to check any of the .asc,
> >     .md5, and .sha256 files against the .zip, report any
> >     difficulties that may have been encountered.
> >
> >   * If you performed the procedure, report
> >      * the version of Microsoft Windows and the type of
> >        account used (administrator or standard user).
> >      * report whether the procedure succeeded
> >      * if the procedure failed or met with difficulties,
> >        please summarize the problems and how you over-
> >        came any of them
> >
> >   * [IMPORTANT] Identify any missing, incomplete or
> >     confusing information in the README.  Describe what you
> >     see as important improvements before making general
> >     release of the procedure for use by non-expert users of
> >     Apache OpenOffice on Windows.
> >
> > The goal is to provide as much as we can to assist Windows users in
> applying this fix with confidence and success.  The experience of more-
> knowledgable users who appreciate the difficulties of non-experts is
> important in achieving that.
> >
> > Thank you for any effort you invest and the feedback you provide.
> 
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