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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)
Date Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:12:13 GMT

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> On Sep 2, 2016, at 12:56 PM, toki <> wrote:
> On 02/09/2016 12:52, RA Stehmann wrote:
>>> being an end-user focused effort. I would suggest we focus on not
>>> being one, but instead being a framework or library that can be consumed
>>> by actual end-user implementations.
>> If AOO is not an end-user focused project
> AOo is one of the few --- perhaps only --- Apache Foundation project
> that is end-user focused. It is the only one that is consumer, as
> opposed to corporate focused.

I might concede that AOO is the only end user focused project.

I disagree with consumer vs corporate. Individuals have benefited greatly from all of the
free projects like HTTPD, tomcat, poi, Tika, Solr, Lucene, to name a few. Corporations too.
And you should be glad. While helping themselves they help others.

> As a framework, or library, the project would be much more aligned with
> The Apache Foundation's sphere of expertise and knowledge.
>> Also people, who build binaries are obsolete.
> Even with frameworks, binaries have to be built. They simply aren't
> distributed.

Not true. Many and probably most Apache projects distribute binaries.

>> The first way might be the "Apache way", but it is definitely not the way for and
of the OpenOffice community.
> Upon meeting, the couple is entranced with each other, and get married.
> Having learnt more about each other, they discover that things are not
> what they thought they were, so they get divorced.
> If both sides had been willing to make adjustments, the divorce would
> not have happened.

We are striving to be a community and not a marriage. The bar to enter or exit a community
is much different.


> jonathon
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