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From "Keith N. McKenna" <keith.mcke...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))
Date Wed, 03 May 2017 21:17:04 GMT
On 5/3/2017 2:36 PM, Marcus wrote:
> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>
>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>> new logo!
> 
> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
> - splash screen
> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
> let's say - 1,5 sec.
> 
> - About dialog
> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
> OpenOffice.
> 
> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
> will notice this graphical change. ;-)
> 
> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
> accepting this as a blocker.
> 
>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
> 
> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general
> when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and
> non-code.
> 
> Paranoia? Maybe.
> Experience? Yes.
> 
> Marcus
> 
I have to agree with Marcus on this one. Our Version Number Assignment
as defined at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases is
<major>.<minor>.<micro>. A <micro>release is defined as "only selected
bug fixes and most often only critical ones. This
includes any potential security issues."

To me updating a couple of graphics that most users are not going to
notice anyway does not rise to the threshold of a critical issue. Does
it need to be done; absolutely. However given the fragility of our build
system adding another potential failure point to a release that has
already taken far longer then predicted is a risk that does not need to
be taken.

Regards
Keith
> 
> 
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>> <matthias.seidel@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>>>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog.
>>>> But
>>>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>>>> such things or not...
>>>
>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>
>>> My 2 ct.
>>>
>>> Marcus



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