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From Jim Jagielski <...@jaguNET.com>
Subject Re: Building module store error on macOS
Date Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:57:19 GMT
I actually have a mac mini that I had been using until I decided to
move to macOS VMs (so I could take advantage of faster machines).
As with most things, the issue isn't getting the h/w but rather the
administration of the machine.

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 1:26 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <damjan@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Oh I wasn't aware. In that case, thank you Larry, great work :).
> 
> Why don't we hear from you Mac guys more? How can we work better together?
> What happened to Jim's Mac buildbot idea?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Damjan,
>> 
>> Larry has contributed Release and Build testing for MacOS. I thank him for
>> that.
>> 
>> We are all in this together. No one individual should feel overburdened.
>> Enough have stuck around and things are developing.
>> 
>> Larry - Are you ready to test Jim’s MacOS build instructions and try to
>> build on your Mac?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 7:44 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <damjan@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2018-03-27, 4:32 PM Dave Fisher wrote concerning "Re: Building module
>>>> store error on macOS":
>>>> 
>>>> For development purposes Apple does not allow virtualization and
>>>>> development has to proceed on physical Apple boxes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we could have macOS on a VM not on Apple hardware then we would
>> have a
>>>>> Apache hosted macOS buildbot now and for the prior four years.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> True, but there are very good reasons for Apple to work that way.
>>>> 
>>>> So, Apple does cost the project more.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. But that is not what I responded to. The specific quote was "Apple
>>>> products are disproportionately expensive", which is pure FUD. That
>> along
>>>> with the statement "or Mac could be dropped as a supported platform"
>> gets
>>>> my hackles up. It is typical of the anti-Mac rhetoric I encounter way
>> too
>>>> often.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> If Apple is that cheap for you and you believe in it that much, I've
>>> already outlined what you can do, such as buying us a Mac mini or
>> providing
>>> access to one, or contributing as a developer.
>> 
>> 
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