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From Peter kovacs <pe...@apache.org>
Subject Re: gstreamer status for 4.2.0-dev?
Date Wed, 06 Jun 2018 20:43:34 GMT
After some thinkibg, I agree with Dave. The Distributions affeced should help in supporting
the backward compability. We can support and guide through the process.
If we find volunteers it could be a small step back into stronger Linux Distribution support.
If no one is interested it saves us complexity, which is also fine.

It would be cool if we write a blog post. We could attach a Forum thread for discussion.
Plus a reach out post to the affected distributions. (I think centOS6 is the only version
affected , but I am not sure.)

I try to make time until weekend for a first blog post draft, if we agree on this.

Am 6. Juni 2018 19:21:10 MESZ schrieb Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>:
>Let's not focus on CentOS5 vs CentOS6 for now... the issue is that
>gstreamer-1.0 requires that previously supported Linux OSs and
>platforms will no longer be supported; that is, our community builds
>will no longer work for them.
>
>Are we OK with that?
>
>That is the main consideration. Everything else is determined from that
>decision.
>
>So what say we all?
>
>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 5:26 PM, Marcus <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Am 05.06.2018 um 00:15 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com>
>wrote:
>>>> I am setup to be able to provide both CentOS5 Linux builds, for
>"old"
>>>> systems (and gstreamer 0.10), and Ubuntu-or-CentOS6 Linux builds
>for newer
>>>> ones (and gstreamer 1.x), so if that is the decision, that's fine
>w/ me. It
>>>> increases, substantially, the total volume of releases we need to
>do, which
>>>> is a factor, so we need to make sure our distro channel is aware.
>>>> 
>>> ‚ÄčI think we'd need to go up to CentOS7 for gstreamer 1.x.
>Anyway...point
>>> taken.
>> 
>> CentOS5 is done [1]. We can try to upgrade to CentOS6 as our new base
>platform. Or do some effort to jump directly to CentOS7.
>> 
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS#End-of-support_schedule
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> I just don't like the one "making" that decision... but that's the
>only
>>>> one I'm qualified to make since that's the only one I'm qualified
>to adjust
>>>> trunk to represent (that is, pull the gstreamer-0.10 stuff from
>4.1.5 and
>>>> reincorporate it into trunk to exist in parallel w/ the new
>gstreamer-1.x
>>>> stuff in there now).
>>>> 
>>>> FWIW, our inability to follow-through on this single issue is quite
>>>> bothersome to me...
>>>>> On May 30, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Torokhov Sergey
><torokhov-s-a@yandex.ru>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 29.05.2018, 21:30, "Jim Jagielski" <jim@jagunet.com>:
>>>>>> I think the hope is to continue using CentOS5 for our official
>AOO
>>>> community builds. If not, then this becomes much easier, but it is,
>IMO, a
>>>> major policy decision to do that. recall that gstreamer-1.x is
>incompatible
>>>> w/ CentOS5.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have no idea how to do #2 but #1 looks like simple brute force.
>>>> Certainly not elegant but if that's what it takes to get past this
>holding
>>>> pattern, then that's what we have to do.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some packages provides builds both for old and new systems.
>>>>> E.g. here ( https://www.onlyoffice.com/en/download-desktop.aspx )
>>>> presented
>>>>> packages both for old Debian and Ubuntu (Debian 7, Ubuntu 12.04 )
>and
>>>> their new releases (Debian 8, Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04, 18.04 ).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could it be a solution to prepare separate packages?
>> 
>> 
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