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From jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Tracking translation volunteers on the wiki
Date Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:27:52 GMT
I have already put links in place, both on the localization page and on the
original (not old :) ) document.

It is now updated with you snippet.

jan


On 18 October 2012 15:05, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:

> On 10/16/12, jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > DonĀ“t misunderstand me, I think everybody does a nice job in getting us
> in
> > the right direction.
> >
> > I agree with the structure as such, it is just at the moment a pain in
> the
> > neck when you search information (and not to forget, my old horse, the
> > multiple logins).
>
> Is called transitional period. It seems Apache people dont want to
> deal with PHP, something that Sun didn't mind as much. So most
> infrastructure (Mediawiki, PHPBBs, Drupal) are in a virtual
> environment at the moment.
>
> Multiple logins have always been an issue in OOo as a whole, the idea
> of implementing OpenID came out several times, but many people didnt
> seem to mind just having multiple accounts, so it never gained
> traction.
>
> Now at apache, doesnt seem that different except for pootle that share
> your commit credentials with http://people.apache.org but neither
> forums, extensions or cwiki share these credentials.
>
> >
> > I am just writing the last pages on "localization of AOO" describing the
> > current l10n process as ground work for a discussion on where we want to
> > go.
>
> Again this should be included in MWiki IMO so there is no 'old
> localization' and 'new localization'. I suggest a good start would be
> to create links between them and mark outdated information as such.
> MWiki had special tags for this.
>
> <div>
> <span style="border:1px solid #CC7777; background-color: #FFEDED;
> padding: 4px; text-align: left; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom:
> 20px;">
> [[image:documentation_exclamation.png|40px]] This article is outdated.
> </span>
> </div>
>
> >
> > I was suggested to make a subpage of the current page in Wiki, that will
> be
> > easy for me, but at the same time shows, that we need to make a deadline,
> > freeze the wiki for a couple of days and divide the pages.
> >
> > rgds
> > JanI.
> >
> > On 16 October 2012 14:34, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:42 AM, RGB ES <rgb.mldc@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > 2012/10/16 jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> >> I know...it is just a matter of how many accounts do you want to
> >> maintain
> >> >> in order to help on AOO.
> >> >>
> >> >> If I look for information regarding AOO I would look in
> >> >> wiki.openoffice.org,
> >> >> I would not think of cwiki.apache.org
> >> >>
> >> >> or have I misunderstood something ?
> >> >>
> >> >> rgds
> >> >> Jan I.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > If my memory do not betray me (I cannot find the thread) there was
> >> > (sort-of) an agreement to use cwiki for development matters and the
> >> > traditional wiki for community support. But it is better to not trust
> >> > my
> >> > memory... ;)
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Historically there was a single website, www.openoffice.org that was
> >> both user-facing and project-facing.  It was a single domain
> >> (openoffice.org) as well as subdomains for distinct projects.  Behind
> >> this domain were static web pages, a wiki, forums, extensions and
> >> template libraries, etc.  So behind the scenes it was quite complex,
> >> but to everyone it looked like "openoffice.org".
> >>
> >> With the move to Apache the services were arranged differently.
> >> Bugzilla is under an apache.org domain.   Apache Infrastructure
> >> supported CWiki and MoinMoin, but not MWiki.  And all Apache projects
> >> have an official page in the apache.org domain.
> >>
> >> So the idea was that we would have two different experiences:  a
> >> user-facing "product" website at openoffice.org, where we focus on
> >> user-facing tasks like product information, downloads and support.
> >> And a project-facing website, at an Apache domain, with information
> >> for volunteers participating on the project.  So product versus
> >> project.  The split is imperfect, since there is still a lot of
> >> project-related content on the openoffice.org domain.  But I think
> >> we've done a good job at making the user experience be clean.  A user
> >> going to the www.openoffice.org home page does not easily find
> >> outdated content.  However, some of the native language home pages,
> >> the ones not maintained yet, have a worse experience.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> > Regards
> >> > Ricardo
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> http://es.openoffice.org
>

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