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From Kadal Amutham <vka...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Single Printout
Date Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:12:24 GMT
 that convert the po files to a lot of different
formats, e.g. csv format that you can load into calc.

Definitely I will check. This will simplify a great lot of my effort.


With Warm Regards

V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480
914422396480


On 15 June 2013 17:24, Kadal Amutham <vkadal@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> With Warm Regards
>
> V.Kadal Amutham
> 919444360480
> 914422396480
>
>
> On 15 June 2013 17:19, janI <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 15 June 2013 13:44, Kadal Amutham <vkadal@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I understand Mr Jan I. I got stuck in getting Pootle installed in my
>> Ubuntu
>> > 11.10 desktop. I will resolve it soon and try to manipulate the data
>> > available with me.
>> >
>>
>> If your purpose is to check/print etc. the text, have a look at the
>> gettext
>> utility instead (see pootle homepage), there a set of utilities  available
>> on ubuntu (and other os), that convert the po files to a lot of different
>> formats, e.g. csv format that you can load into calc.
>>
>> jsc and I do a lot of the maintenance using these utilities.
>>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > With Warm Regards
>> >
>> > V.Kadal Amutham
>> > 919444360480
>> > 914422396480
>> >
>> >
>> > On 15 June 2013 17:06, janI <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 15 June 2013 10:35, Kadal Amutham <vkadal@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Jani, Could you able to access the database and the tables in
>> pootle,
>> > as
>> > > > one could do it in MySQL?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I have access to the mysql db, but I cannot provide that for you (at
>> > least
>> > > at the moment), this is a shared server between all asf projects and
>> in
>> > > order to have mysql access you would need access to the server and be
>> > able
>> > > to do sudo.
>> > >
>> > > The database is controlled by pootle, and we are very carefull when
>> using
>> > > mysql directly, actually we only do backup, and I do db optimization.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > I checked the size of Tamil pootle files it is 5.7 MB. Assume 10 MB.
>> > > There
>> > > > are not more than 40 languages currently in pootle. So the DB size
>> > should
>> > > > not be more than 400MB? How it shows 15GB? Actually it should be
>> much
>> > > less
>> > > > than 400MB. The original English text data will not be repeated 40
>> > times,
>> > > > to get 400MB. So where is the catch?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I am not sure why you expect the mysql tables to have anywhere the
>> same
>> > > size as the simple po files. the mysql tables contains all kind of key
>> > > references, historical data, information about who did what.
>> > >
>> > > I dont think there is a catch, try to load the po files in simple
>> tables
>> > > and you will normally find that the tables are much larger than the
>> > > original text files.
>> > >
>> > > I you want to learn more about how pootle structures data, then
>> download
>> > it
>> > > and install it, having done that you can  upload your files on your
>> local
>> > > version, and play with that.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > There is one law. The name I forgot
>> > > >
>> > > > The work extends till the time available
>> > > > The data expands to fill the hard disk space
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Yeah, you are right, but dont forget the other law:
>> > >     The more you compress data, the slower a system you get.
>> > >
>> > > rgds
>> > > jan I.
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > With Warm Regards
>> > > >
>> > > > V.Kadal Amutham
>> > > > 919444360480
>> > > > 914422396480
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 15 June 2013 13:37, Kadal Amutham <vkadal@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > It is a good suggestion. I checked that pootle is open source,
>> and I
>> > > will
>> > > > > install, I can download Tamil translation from AOO server and
>> upload
>> > it
>> > > > to
>> > > > > my pootle. Let us see whether I can do anything worthwhile
>> > > > >
>> > > > > With Warm Regards
>> > > > >
>> > > > > V.Kadal Amutham
>> > > > > 919444360480
>> > > > > 914422396480
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 15 June 2013 12:47, janI <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> On Jun 15, 2013 6:55 AM, "Kadal Amutham" <vkadal@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > It is a great news that it is in MySQL. Can I have the
copy of
>> the
>> > > > >> database
>> > > > >> > / table to study further?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> may I suggest you start by installing pootle somewhere and
get to
>> > know
>> > > > the
>> > > > >> db structure first. Just dumping about 15gb data will not
be vey
>> > > > helpfull
>> > > > >> to you.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> if you install pootle you can experiment on a small db, create
>> the
>> > > > script
>> > > > >> you ant which we then can run on the server.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> rgds
>> > > > >> jan i
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > With Warm Regards
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > V.Kadal Amutham
>> > > > >> > 919444360480
>> > > > >> > 914422396480
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On 15 June 2013 03:59, janI <jani@apache.org>
wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > On Jun 14, 2013 8:48 PM, "Kadal Amutham" <vkadal@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > Pootle server may be sitting on a Database
server like
>> MySQL.
>> > > > >> Probably
>> > > > >> > > > there shall be single database, and each language
shall
>> have a
>> > > > >> table.
>> > > > >> If
>> > > > >> > > I
>> > > > >> > > > could get a copy of that table, then I can
upload to any
>> MySQL
>> > > > >> server
>> > > > >> and
>> > > > >> > > > analyse further. I can take any print out
as I like.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > pootle uses mysql, but each is not so that each
language has
>> a
>> > > > simple
>> > > > >> > > table. sentences/words/terms are split across several
tables,
>> > > which
>> > > > >> also
>> > > > >> > > contain deleted entries and to some extent revisions.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > rgds
>> > > > >> > > jan i
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > Kindly let me know whether my assumption is
correct.
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > On 14 June 2013 16:56, Andrea Pescetti <
>> pescetti@apache.org>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Andre Fischer wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >>
>> > http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Mnemonics_Localisation#**
>> > > > >> > > > >>>> How_the_mnemonics_are_assigned<
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Mnemonics_Localisation#How_the_mnemonics_are_assigned
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >> > > > >>> Is this "no accelerators" rule
still active? Even in
>> > > languages
>> > > > >> where
>> > > > >> > > > >> automatic selection of accelerators
work, can that not
>> > break
>> > > > >> > > > >> documentation? I mean, can adding
a new string lead to
>> all
>> > > > >> > > accelerators
>> > > > >> > > > >> being redefined?
>> > > > >> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > As far as I know, documentation is not
mentioning
>> > accelerators
>> > > > in
>> > > > >> > > general,
>> > > > >> > > > > but only shortcuts (CTRL-S and similar).
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >  And there is point 3 in section 1.1
in the
>> > > > Mnemonics_Localisation
>> > > > >> page
>> > > > >> > > > >> mentioned above:
>> > > > >> > > > >> "The bugs are fixed manually in Web-LingTool
by placing
>> the
>> > > '~'
>> > > > >> > > > >> character to a different position"
>> > > > >> > > > >> Removing all explicitly defined accelerators
would
>> remove
>> > > such
>> > > > >> bug
>> > > > >> > > fixes.
>> > > > >> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > The guidelines in
>> > > http://openoffice.apache.org/**translate.html
>> > > > <
>> > > > >> > > http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html>item
3 only
>> mention
>> > > > >> "newly
>> > > > >> > > translating strings": existing accelerators can
>> > > > >> > > > > be left as they ae, they won't break
anything (except,
>> > > possibly,
>> > > > >> making
>> > > > >> > > > > more difficult some automated matches
in translation
>> > > > management).
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > >> > > > >   Andrea.
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> >
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