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From Joshua Chamas <>
Subject Re: Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix
Date Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:44:50 GMT
timj_moore wrote:
> Not sure what happened to my reply I posted, and I can't be bothered
> to type it all in again, but in short I got it working after a *lot*
> of hassle.
> I did write exactly how I got it installed, but I can't remember it
> all now. Anyway, what I do know is it involved a lot more steps than
> in the instructions (including those at which I had
> been trying from the start).
> In particular I had to get the perl shell to download a lot of extra
> stuff (especially LWP), and manually install some stuff that the

Apache::ASP stopped requiring LWP for HTTP::Date with version 2.31
I believe.  mod_perl test suite still requires LWP though.  
Doing 'make test' for mod_perl almost never completely works for me, 
so I tend to not run it anymore.

> shell wouldn't do itself (EXPAT which was required for mod_perl I
> think). I think I even had to do an 'install Apache' because mod_perl

Once you install mod_perl, Apache::* modules are installed already.  
I would be surprised if CPAN thought otherwise.  Maybe CPAN picked
up on something that needed Apache::* modules for something like
Apache::SSI ???  I try to make Apache::ASP installable outside
of Apache/mod_perl so maybe it was some addon module that 
triggered this? 

> What I can recommend though is getting the source for apache &
> mod_perl, and building mod_perl with the PREP_HTTPD=1 option which
> prevents mod_perl from building apache but builds mod_perl. This
> means you can go and build apache how you like and not how mod_perl
> likes (I find that really annoying that mod_perl by default assumes
> you'll just build apache to only ever use mod_perl! In fact I don't
> like mod_perl trying to build apache for you).

I have compiled mod_perl just fine before using the apxs approach
though I am not sure if that is the same as PREP_HTTPD.  I believe
with apxs it compiled mod_perl as a DSO install, which I try to 
avoid generally, but worked that one time.  You might be talking 
about something else... since I only ever need mod_perl in my Apache, 
I have never tried to document the other approaches.

Did you ever try to use ApacheToolbox for any of this?  I sounds
like it works just fine for lots of people.  The hard part
is installing mod_perl I think.

> *not* easy.

About the CPAN install, as of Apache::ASP v2.31, the Bundle::Apache::ASP
only requires the basic packages, and one has to install 
Bundle::Apache::ASP::Extra for the full suite of hard to 
install programs.  Did any of the core packages like MLDBM::Sync
or Digest::MD5 present any problems?

I'll building a new Linux box in the next couple months, and
will try the mod_perl + Apache::ASP install from scratch 
and see if I can't provide any better notes from this.  If you
or anyone has some docs to contribute to the current
set for Apache::ASP, please send them over.

Joshua Chamas                           Chamas Enterprises Inc.
NodeWorks Founder                       Huntington Beach, CA  USA                1-714-625-4051

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