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From Tim Ellison <t.p.elli...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Draft for Review - October Podling Report
Date Fri, 07 Oct 2016 13:43:09 GMT
On 07/10/16 14:33, Joe Witt wrote:
> We should avoid the debate about how likely the loss is but we should
> also point out how dubious this guidance appears to be in other
> communities that graduated.   Nah, let's not debate that either.  ;-)
> 
> Pirk is a pretty specialized and awesome concept.  Whether the core
> committer base expands or not does remain to be seen.  As a mentor
> though what I'm watching above all right now is that the community is
> doing those things consistently which enable and allow such growth -
> demonstrating the apache way.

... and in case it wasn't clear, I think Pirk is doing a great job at that!

Regards,
Tim


> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 07/10/16 12:59, Ellison Anne Williams wrote:
>>> Good points. From a mentor perspective, what would you consider to be
>>> diverse enough community involvement for the project to be self-sustaining?
>>
>> The goal is to ensure that if one or two existing people / companies
>> decide (for whatever reason) that they no longer want to participate in
>> Pirk, the community will be able to continue.
>>
>> Now we don't need to get into a debate about how likely that loss is for
>> Pirk, but as a general rule the guidance is that having three distinct
>> 'entities' as regular committers would be a minimum.
>>
>> Of course, the more the better.
>>
>> Take a look here for a good overview
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:56 AM, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/10/16 13:50, Ellison Anne Williams wrote:
>>>>> It appears that podling reports have been moved to quarterly instead
of
>>>>> monthly - looks like we don't have to submit a report until December.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> (Thanks to Suneel for the info!)
>>>>
>>>> Sure, though I still think it is worth us reflecting on progress more
>>>> frequently.  I have no fear of the code (IP) cleanliness, procedures, or
>>>> personalities involved in Pirk.  I do worry a bit about whether Pirk
>>>> will be self-sustaining in terms of diverse community involvement.
>>>>
>>>> It is still early days, and there has been good progress on developer
>>>> and user documentation and guidance.  Hopefully we can continue in that
>>>> vein, and the project will continue to see the benefits.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Tim Ellison <t.p.ellison@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/10/16 01:14, Ellison Anne Williams wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please find the draft podling report for October below -- please
let me
>>>>>>> know if you have any comments/suggestions/questions. I will post
it to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> incubator wiki when everyone is happy with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ellison Anne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI the layout got messed up on my client, so I hit return a few
times
>>>>>> to reformat the text below...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PirkPirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval
>>>>>>> (PIR).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pirk has been incubating since 2016-06-17. The initial code for
>>>>>>> Pirk was granted on 2016-07-11.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Grow the community to establish diversity of background and
>>>> expertise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Establish a formal release process and schedule, allowing
for
>>>>>>> dependable release cycles in a manner consistent with the Apache
>>>>>>> development process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Add to and improve the Pirk user documentation and examples
both on
>>>>>>> the website and in the code base.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
to
>>>>>>> be aware of?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have attracted a couple of new contributors since the last
report.
>>>>>>> The mailing list activity, pull requests, and page views to the
Apache
>>>>>>> Pirk website (via Google Analytics) have also increased since
the last
>>>>>>> report.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The project is in the process of completing it's second release,
>>>>>>> 0.2.0-incubating. The project has also undertaken a refactor
of some of
>>>>>>> the packages and drivers and added additional user/developer
>>>>>>> documentation on the website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date of last release:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> August 29, 2016
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pirk elected two new committers (Tim Ellison and Suneel Marthi,
both
>>>>>>> mentors) on August 18, 2016.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 from me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we are well on the the way to achieving goal two, the repeatable
>>>>>> release process/schedule, and as you have written, it is now a case
of
>>>>>> focusing on user and developer community to ensure the project is
>>>>>> sustainable in the long run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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