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From Daniel Kulp <daniel.k...@iona.com>
Subject Re: Dependencies and how it's going to affect the release
Date Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:32:17 GMT

+1 to maven as well..   :-)

There is also the jbossall-client.jar in the source tree.   I believe that 
is LGPL or part LGPL, also not allowed as part of a distribution at 

I've been chatting with the Maven folks today about the LICENSE/NOTICE 
issues.   As of November 1, all apache projects have to have those files, 
including Maven releases.   Thus, they now have extra incentive to get 
that working smoothly.  :-)

Seriously,  they are writing a plugin that will use the <license> tags 
from the maven poms to automatically build up the notice files and such.   
Should make things much easier to manage.


On Monday November 06 2006 6:58 pm, Steve Vinoski wrote:
> +1 to maven, which I've been working on for awhile. So far in doing
> the maven work I've been surprised by both 1) the number of
> dependencies, which is much higher than I expected, and 2) the
> dependencies which aren't really legal. The JMS jar is one. Another
> is the Sun fscontext stuff, which AIUI is used only for testing, but
> is seemingly unavailable from any maven repository as far as I can
> see. As Rajith says, managing these dependencies will be a big part
> of getting M1 right.
> The main thing that's been killing me as far as maven goes are the
> test areas. They're not organized well, have dependencies between
> them, and as I've pointed out before, they mix unit tests, system
> tests, and performance tests. I also ran into the junit3 vs. junit4
> issue with the maven surefire plugin, but have managed to get some of
> the tests working with junit4 and the maven antrun plugin. If the
> test areas were in better shape, the maven work would have been
> finished weeks ago.
> I've been committing to the maven branch for a few weeks now, but
> obviously it still needs work. Anyone can take a look at it if they
> like, obviously. I'm currently working on ensuring that the maven
> branch has the latest changes from trunk, so that I'm sure I'm not
> chasing test failures that are already fixed. Meanwhile, if anyone
> else wants to pitch in on the maven work, I'd be glad for the help.
> --steve
> On Nov 6, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Rajith Attapattu wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > AFAIK when we release we will have to package some of the
> > dependcies with
> > our binary distribution.
> > When we do this we need to make sure we supply the license.txt's
> > for those
> > dependencies.
> >
> > Currently we have static dependencies in our lib files scattered
> > over the
> > project.
> > So we need to think about them.
> >
> > For example the jms.jar. Now where did this come from?? where is
> > the license
> > associated with this?
> > Usually in apache we use the geronimo spec project to get the
> > API's, so we
> > can use that for JMS.
> >
> > If I dependencies keeps growing then that will make things even more
> > diffficult to manage, especially at distribtuion/release time.
> >
> > Maybe it's time to get things a bit more organized and move to a
> > maven structure where some of these headache are taken care of.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rajith

J. Daniel Kulp
Principal Engineer
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