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From Carl Trieloff <cctriel...@redhat.com>
Subject Re: Web site
Date Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:55:57 GMT

I had volunteered to ask our design group... that is what the start if 
this mail was about so I guess I will
go ahead as the mail has gone full circle


John O'Hara wrote:
> It does look good.  Hides its Wiki'ness pretty well.
>
> Anyone volunteering :-)
>
> On 04/12/06, Johnson, Eric <Eric.Johnson@iona.com> wrote:
>>
>> That looks pretty good.
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: David Blevins [mailto:david.blevins@visi.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:50 PM
>> > To: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: Web site
>> >
>> > Hi.  I can tell you a bit about the OpenEJB auto export setup.
>> > (http://incubator.apache.org/openejb/)
>> >
>> > Our template is here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/
>> > openejb/trunk/website/src/vm/openejb_autoexport.vm
>> >
>> > The publishing is a bit ad-hoc and somewhat manual still, but
>> > it's better than nothing.
>> >
>> > For people who don't have shell access to cwiki, Jeff Turner
>> > has a cron script that rsyncs all the autoexport generated
>> > data from cwiki
>> > to his home dir on people.   I have a similar cron script
>> > that rsyncs
>> > from his dir to incubator.a.o./openejb.  Here's that script:
>> >
>> > --site_update.sh--
>> > #!/usr/local/bin/bash
>> >
>> > LAST="$HOME/last-website-check"
>> >
>> > NEWEST="$(ls -t $LAST
>> > /home/jefft/public_html/confluence/OPENEJB/* | grep -m1 '^')"
>> >
>> > if [ "$NEWEST" != "$LAST" ]; then
>> > /usr/local/bin/rsync -tvr /home/jefft/public_html/confluence/OPENEJB/
>> > * /www/incubator.apache.org/openejb/
>> > fi
>> >
>> > touch "$LAST"
>> > ------------------
>> >
>> > I run that once an hour.
>> >
>> > The base site -- images, stylesheets, presentations, and
>> > other goodies -- is all entirely in svn and I periodically
>> > update svn manually with the latest generated content.
>> >
>> > About once a week I hop onto cwiki and have autoexport
>> > regenerate all the content again.  This takes care of the
>> > dynamic content in confluence like rss or jira data.
>> >
>> > The template we use has some good macros at the top, that's
>> > the more important part.  The html is fairly old -- it's only
>> > been tweaked since it was originally created 6-7 years ago.
>> > With better stylesheets you can do the same without endless
>> > sea of tables.  But it doesn't take much to plum in the
>> > dynamic content into an existing html template.
>> >
>> > I do like the servicemix site too, that'd be a great template
>> > to yank if you just wanted something small and clean to get started.
>> >
>> > Hope this helps.
>> >
>> > -David
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 1, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Johnson, Eric wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Confluence has an export to HTML feature that can be used to export
>> > > the content to a static site.
>> > > The default export is not too pretty, but it is functional. You can
>> > > customize it to look pretty good. See
>> > > http://servicemix.org/site/home.html and http://
>> > geronimo.apache.org/
>> > > for examples.
>> > >
>> > > Perhaps one of their committers would be willing to pitch
>> > in and help
>> > > get the export looking better?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>> > >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:17 AM
>> > >> To: Marnie McCormack
>> > >> Cc: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > >> Subject: Re: Web site
>> > >>
>> > >> Marnie McCormack wrote:
>> > >>> Hi Carl,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Apologies if there's anything I've misunderstood .....
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Imho we should look to export from Confluence to generate
>> > >> static web
>> > >>> content (see JIRA
>> > >> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-99), so we
>> > >>> can keep rework to a minimum on the content for the web site.
>> > >>
>> > >> yes this is what I would like to do, I would like to
>> > create a set of
>> > >> frames and menus etc that look really good, and then pull
>> > 90% of the
>> > >> content but linking to it from cwiki. This might mean we need to
>> > >> structure the cwiki stuff a bit better.
>> > >>
>> > >> So I expect that we will do all the text, but would like to get
>> > >> professional help to get the look and feel, and portal-ing
>> > to cwiki
>> > >> content working very smoothly.
>> > >>
>> > >> Carl.
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Be great to have some professional input, but maybe we
>> > can use the
>> > >>> text we already have to keep the maintenance low ?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hope I'm on the same page :-)
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Regards,
>> > >>> Marnie
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 11/30/06, *Carl Trieloff* <cctrieloff@redhat.com
>> > >>> <mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>     When we get to the point that we release M1 we should
>> > >> update our web
>> > >>>     site, it is
>> > >>>     located at http://incubator.apache.org/qpid/.  I would like
to
>> > >>>     link the
>> > >>>     wiki from
>> > >>>     this site as much as possible. To that end I would
>> > like to move
>> > >>>     some of
>> > >>>     the content
>> > >>>     around on the wiki to better facilitate that. For
>> > >> example quite a
>> > >>>     bit of
>> > >>>     the doc/FAQ
>> > >>>     etc is common between the different clients and
>> > >> brokers, so many just
>> > >>>     index/ structuring
>> > >>>     work.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>     In addition I am by no means a web designer, to that
>> > >> end if there
>> > >>>     are no
>> > >>>     objections
>> > >>>     I would like to raise a request internally to our
>> > >> design team do a
>> > >>>     version 2 of the
>> > >>>     web site for us and contribute that back to the project
>> > >> under a JIRA.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>     If there are other ideas fire away,
>> > >>>     Carl.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>


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