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From Jacob Maes <jacob.m...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Samza Logo
Date Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:24:46 GMT
I think I voted the exact opposite to everyone else in this thread.

I don't want anything to do with a butterfly. The metaphor is even further
removed from the Samsa story than a cockroach, so I think we should give up
on that. I don't want a mascot; we're not building a university football
team. And as animals go, the only slower one I can think of is a sloth, so
I don't feel a butterfly says "scalable stream processing". This, combined
with my preference to eschew the color red for logos, puts the red
butterfly last.

The blue butterfly is a little more abstract and formal looking, but still
a butterfly, so that is second to last.

The other 2 are very close, in my opinion.

The one with the circles is reminiscent of orbital loops, which gives me
the feeling of scale. It also has the dots at varying places along the
lines, which to me conveys the different proportions of input/output stream
sizes/TTLs. And the cyclical shape could also be used for animations
portraying the concept of "reprocessing"

The one with the "S" dots reminds me of the Kafka logo without the lines.
If the lines are the streams and the dots are processing nodes, then I
think it's clever for the Samza logo to be a "negative" of the Kafka one.
That's not to say samza is any more related to Kafka than it is; but if the
Kafka logo says "streams" then to me this Samza logo says "processors"

My 2 cents.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Ignacio Solis <isolis@igso.net> wrote:

> You're making me feel bad for linking that one! :-)
>
> I don't see it as a maze. To me, that one is like circles that turn,
> representing the processing. Like cogs on an engine. The little
> circles are like the messages. The concentric circles are like the
> streams.
>
> The red butterfly is my second favorite.
>
> Vote note:
>
> Once we close voting we'll look at the actual results.  The way the
> ranking gets calculated it you don't vote for a design at all, that
> vote does not get factored in. It assumes you have no opinion. So if
> somebody votes 5 stars on A and 1 start on B.  And second person only
> votes 5 stars on B, then the ranking would be  A-5 stars, B-3 stars.
> (or something along those lines).   So if you only vote on the 5 star
> ones, you're missing your vote on the ones you don't like.
>
> So, once we close, we'll see how people voted.
>
> Nacho
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Yi Pan <nickpan47@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Really? The one with the maze on the left currently is top one? I can't
> > relate to that either. My favorite was the logo w/ Taiji symbol. Since
> that
> > did not make the top 4, I am voting for the red bufferfly one, same as
> > Navina.
> >
> > -Yi
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Navina Ramesh
> <nramesh@linkedin.com.invalid
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> I prefer to have open discussions in the official mailing list or JIRA
> >> since it is an open-community. It also helps track the discussions.
> >>
> >> Fwiw, I am in favor of the red themed butterfly design because:
> >> 1. Knowing the origin of the name "Samza" (from Gregor Samsa character
> in
> >> "Metamorphosis"), it isn't very far-fetched in terms of relating stream
> >> processing to some kind of transformation. Butterfly is probably the
> >> prettiest insect to associate with "metamorphosis", without giving the
> >> impression of a bug :)
> >> 2. Red theme ties it with the current logo, although we can improvise on
> >> the gradients.
> >> 3. We can have a "mascot" , instead of an abstract symbol.
> >>
> >> One comment on the butterfly one - it seems to have only 1 antenna.
> >>
> >> -1 for the dots only logo. It feels like a color-blindness test :D
> >> -1 for the blue-based logo - it is just not relatable and it's an
> extreme
> >> change from the current one.
> >>
> >> I couldn't relate to the circular one. What are are trying to
> portray/imply
> >> here. That we are a bunch of disconnected links?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Navina
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Ignacio Solis <isolis@igso.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Vote directly at design crowd.  But feel free to leave comments here,
> >> > maybe you can try to persuade people or argue for your favorite. :-)
> >> >
> >> > Nacho
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Navina Ramesh
> >> > <nramesh@linkedin.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> > > Hi Nacho,
> >> > > Do you want us to vote on this mail thread or directly at design
> crowd?
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks!
> >> > > Navina
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Ignacio Solis <isolis@igso.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi folks.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> After some feedback and culling, we are down to 4 candidates.
> Please
> >> > >> vote on your favorite designs. We will be able to make minor
> >> > >> modifications to the selected logo as we talk to the designer.
 We
> can
> >> > >> always have changes in colors or fonts.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> http://www.designcrowd.com/vote/apachesamzalogo
> >> > >>
> >> > >> This poll will stay open for about a week to collect all votes
and
> >> > >> comments.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> For completeness, the relevant JIRA is this:
> >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SAMZA-1111
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Cheers,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Nacho
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Nacho - Ignacio Solis - isolis@igso.net
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Navina R.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Nacho - Ignacio Solis - isolis@igso.net
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Navina R.
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Nacho - Ignacio Solis - isolis@igso.net
>

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