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From Renato MarroquĂ­n Mogrovejo <renatoj.marroq...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Samza Logo
Date Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:28:34 GMT
Thanks for doing this Nacho!
As a bit of an outsider I have to say that I have to agree with Jake. I
really couldn't make the connection with the butterfly until I read it on
the list.
I also didn't get the one with only dots, I agree with Navina, it seemed
like a color blind test ;)
So for me the winner is the orbital loops one, I think conveys many of the
points that Samza wants to do.
Just my 2cents.


Best,

Renato M.

2017-04-18 2:08 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Solis <isolis@igso.net>:

> Hi folks.
>
> This is a reminder that you should vote on the designs.
>
> Please REPLY TO THIS EMAIL so we know what people think.
>
> We want to choose a final logo out of these 4 designs.
>
>
> Nacho
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Jacob Maes <jacob.maes@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think I voted the exact opposite to everyone else in this thread.
> >
> > I don't want anything to do with a butterfly. The metaphor is even
> further
> > removed from the Samsa story than a cockroach, so I think we should give
> up
> > on that. I don't want a mascot; we're not building a university football
> > team. And as animals go, the only slower one I can think of is a sloth,
> so
> > I don't feel a butterfly says "scalable stream processing". This,
> combined
> > with my preference to eschew the color red for logos, puts the red
> > butterfly last.
> >
> > The blue butterfly is a little more abstract and formal looking, but
> still
> > a butterfly, so that is second to last.
> >
> > The other 2 are very close, in my opinion.
> >
> > The one with the circles is reminiscent of orbital loops, which gives me
> > the feeling of scale. It also has the dots at varying places along the
> > lines, which to me conveys the different proportions of input/output
> stream
> > sizes/TTLs. And the cyclical shape could also be used for animations
> > portraying the concept of "reprocessing"
> >
> > The one with the "S" dots reminds me of the Kafka logo without the lines.
> > If the lines are the streams and the dots are processing nodes, then I
> > think it's clever for the Samza logo to be a "negative" of the Kafka one.
> > That's not to say samza is any more related to Kafka than it is; but if
> the
> > Kafka logo says "streams" then to me this Samza logo says "processors"
> >
> > My 2 cents.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Ignacio Solis <isolis@igso.net> wrote:
> >
> >> You're making me feel bad for linking that one! :-)
> >>
> >> I don't see it as a maze. To me, that one is like circles that turn,
> >> representing the processing. Like cogs on an engine. The little
> >> circles are like the messages. The concentric circles are like the
> >> streams.
> >>
> >> The red butterfly is my second favorite.
> >>
> >> Vote note:
> >>
> >> Once we close voting we'll look at the actual results.  The way the
> >> ranking gets calculated it you don't vote for a design at all, that
> >> vote does not get factored in. It assumes you have no opinion. So if
> >> somebody votes 5 stars on A and 1 start on B.  And second person only
> >> votes 5 stars on B, then the ranking would be  A-5 stars, B-3 stars.
> >> (or something along those lines).   So if you only vote on the 5 star
> >> ones, you're missing your vote on the ones you don't like.
> >>
> >> So, once we close, we'll see how people voted.
> >>
> >> Nacho
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Yi Pan <nickpan47@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Really? The one with the maze on the left currently is top one? I
> can't
> >> > relate to that either. My favorite was the logo w/ Taiji symbol. Since
> >> that
> >> > did not make the top 4, I am voting for the red bufferfly one, same as
> >> > Navina.
> >> >
> >> > -Yi
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Navina Ramesh
> >> <nramesh@linkedin.com.invalid
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I prefer to have open discussions in the official mailing list or
> JIRA
> >> >> since it is an open-community. It also helps track the discussions.
> >> >>
> >> >> Fwiw, I am in favor of the red themed butterfly design because:
> >> >> 1. Knowing the origin of the name "Samza" (from Gregor Samsa
> character
> >> in
> >> >> "Metamorphosis"), it isn't very far-fetched in terms of relating
> stream
> >> >> processing to some kind of transformation. Butterfly is probably the
> >> >> prettiest insect to associate with "metamorphosis", without giving
> the
> >> >> impression of a bug :)
> >> >> 2. Red theme ties it with the current logo, although we can
> improvise on
> >> >> the gradients.
> >> >> 3. We can have a "mascot" , instead of an abstract symbol.
> >> >>
> >> >> One comment on the butterfly one - it seems to have only 1 antenna.
> >> >>
> >> >> -1 for the dots only logo. It feels like a color-blindness test :D
> >> >> -1 for the blue-based logo - it is just not relatable and it's an
> >> extreme
> >> >> change from the current one.
> >> >>
> >> >> I couldn't relate to the circular one. What are are trying to
> >> portray/imply
> >> >> here. That we are a bunch of disconnected links?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >> Navina
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Ignacio Solis <isolis@igso.net>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Vote directly at design crowd.  But feel free to leave comments
> here,
> >> >> > maybe you can try to persuade people or argue for your favorite.
> :-)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Nacho
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Navina Ramesh
> >> >> > <nramesh@linkedin.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> > > Hi Nacho,
> >> >> > > Do you want us to vote on this mail thread or directly at
design
> >> crowd?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Thanks!
> >> >> > > Navina
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Ignacio Solis <isolis@igso.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> Hi folks.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> After some feedback and culling, we are down to 4 candidates.
> >> Please
> >> >> > >> vote on your favorite designs. We will be able to make
minor
> >> >> > >> modifications to the selected logo as we talk to the
designer.
> We
> >> can
> >> >> > >> always have changes in colors or fonts.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> http://www.designcrowd.com/vote/apachesamzalogo
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> This poll will stay open for about a week to collect
all votes
> and
> >> >> > >> comments.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> For completeness, the relevant JIRA is this:
> >> >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SAMZA-1111
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Cheers,
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Nacho
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> --
> >> >> > >> Nacho - Ignacio Solis - isolis@igso.net
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > Navina R.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Nacho - Ignacio Solis - isolis@igso.net
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Navina R.
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nacho - Ignacio Solis - isolis@igso.net
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Nacho - Ignacio Solis - isolis@igso.net
>

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