spark-dev mailing list archives

Site index · List index
Message view « Date » · « Thread »
Top « Date » · « Thread »
From Aaron Davidson <ilike...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Eliminate copy while sending data : any Akka experts here ?
Date Tue, 01 Jul 2014 02:58:30 GMT
I don't know of any way to avoid Akka doing a copy, but I would like to
mention that it's on the priority list to piggy-back only the map statuses
relevant to a particular map task on the task itself, thus reducing the
total amount of data sent over the wire by a factor of N for N physical
machines in your cluster. Ideally we would also avoid Akka entirely when
sending the tasks, as these can get somewhat large and Akka doesn't work
well with large messages.

Do note that your solution of using broadcast to send the map tasks is very
similar to how the executor returns the result of a task when it's too big
for akka. We were thinking of refactoring this too, as using the block
manager has much higher latency than a direct TCP send.


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Mridul Muralidharan <mridul@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Our current hack is to use Broadcast variables when serialized
> statuses are above some (configurable) size : and have the workers
> directly pull them from master.
> This is a workaround : so would be great if there was a
> better/principled solution.
>
> Please note that the responses are going to different workers
> requesting for the output statuses for shuffle (after map) - so not
> sure if back pressure buffers, etc would help.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mridul
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Mridul Muralidharan <mridul@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >   While sending map output tracker result, the same serialized byte
> > array is sent multiple times - but the akka implementation copies it
> > to a private byte array within ByteString for each send.
> > Caching a ByteString instead of Array[Byte] did not help, since akka
> > does not support special casing ByteString : serializes the
> > ByteString, and copies the result out to an array before creating
> > ByteString out of it (in Array[Byte] serializing is thankfully simply
> > returning same array - so one copy only).
> >
> >
> > Given the need to send immutable data large number of times, is there
> > any way to do it in akka without copying internally in akka ?
> >
> >
> > To see how expensive it is, for 200 nodes withi large number of
> > mappers and reducers, the status becomes something like 30 mb for us -
> > and pulling this about 200 to 300 times results in OOM due to the
> > large number of copies sent out.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mridul
>

Mime
  • Unnamed multipart/alternative (inline, None, 0 bytes)
View raw message